Childhood Vaccinations – Necessary or Overkill? Sequal Thread

Any and all medications have risks.It is simply that public tolerance of vaccine risk is lower (thanks in large part to Antivax Hysterics).Public tolerance of the risks associated with aspirin is high.Furthermore, adverse reactions to vaccines come in more than one flavor:Vaccine reaction
Caused by inherent properties of the vaccineProgrammatic errors
Caused by preparation, handling or administration errorCoincidental
Occurs after the vaccine but not caused by the vaccineInjection reaction
Anxiety or pain caused by the injection but not the vaccine itselfPerhaps you'd like to provide evidence of the first sort: caused by the vaccine itself.

Did you even bother to read this site?http://zmagsite.zmag.org/Aug2003/born0803.html I'm not even going to address the rest of your post until you justify this nonsense.ABE:Good christ. Again with no cites.OK. Here's how we're gonna play this.Until you provide evidence to the contrary, I am going to assume that Lynne made all this shit up. Edited by molbiogirl, : No reason given.

No. What you've done is pass along hearsay.And with both posts, I have gone to the original paper and found absolutely no link between what the authors of the websites claim and what the paper says.You need to go to pubmed.Do you understand, Lindalou?YOU need to go to pubmed.YOU need to read at least the abstracts.YOU need to evaluate the evidence.Now. Why don't you take some time, when you have time, to address the points I made here: Message 245Message 259

From the story you cited: Cancer deaths are down across the board, and have been dropping for 20 years.Cancer deaths have been dropping by 2.1% every year since 2002.

Let's try a new tack.Child car seats are mandatory.Child car seats have caused deaths.Should child car seats therefore be optional?

I just stumbled across a vax blog that has a quiz for Antivax Hysterics.The Millenium Project – 404 page not foundIt's like the guy's been eavesdropping on the conversation here!

Lindalou, this one's for you.The Anti-Immunization Activists: A Pattern of Deception Dr. Friedlander has taken it upon himself to show in nauseating detail how Antivax Hysterics misuse scientific literature.You will note he is sympathetic to "alternative" medicine. So he should have some street cred in your book.

Lindalou, I will save a more detailed response to your latest hearsay post for the next generation of this thread.Wounded has already called BS on Dr. Neulander as an Antivax Hysteric, so I'd just like to add this:The cites from the "mainstream journals" of which you are so fond are from 1868, 1884, 1889, 1891, 1893, 1896, 1928, 1960, 1972, 1976, 1979.Of the 22 cites, only 2 are from 1990s.One of which has nothing to do with vaccines.Over half the cites are from the 19th century.I am not about the engage in a serious discussion of 140 year old cites.Your second link again has no cites.Until you provide evidence to the contrary, I am going to assume that Gary made all that shit up.Lindalou. In all seriousness, take a long hard look at the "evidence" you have offered time and again.Half the time they are more than likely fabrications as they provide no supporting cites from the relevant literature.The other half use cites that are anywhere from 100 to 40 years old.Find an Antivax Hysteric website that uses cites less than 40 y.o. then we'll talk.

Lindalou, stop replying.The thread is over 300.