"Man" and "guy", and "he" are not gender neutral terms, regardless of how either of them were used in the past.
The idea that "man" as a standalone word or "he" or even "guy" are gender neutral is not only laughable it's a strawman.
If you read back through my posts you will find (I hope!) that I have never said any of these are gender neutral, so I don't see why you said this. From what I have observed of your posting record here I wouldn't expect you to put words into other people's mouths, so maybe I just haven't been explaining myself very well.
What I
have said is:
- The Old English origin of the word man was gender neutral
- Guys can be both gender-neutral and specifically male
- The suffix -man in modern English can be gender neutral in words such as Chairman
- There is no consistency in whether -man is gender-specific or neutral in usage
As for the test:
In 1972, two sociologists at Drake University, Joseph Schneider and Sally Hacker, decided to test the hypothesis that man is generally understood to embrace woman.
Well good for them - except I don't know where they would have got the idea that man is generally understood to embrace woman. All I've ever said is that the suffix -man can be gender-neutral (chairman) - but it can also be gender-specific (policeman). The standalone word man almost always means male - the only exception I can think of is in phrases like "help your fellow man".
Half the students were assigned chapter headings like ``Social Man'', ``Industrial Man'', and ``Political Man''.
Analysis of the pictures selected revealed that in the minds of students of both sexes use of the word man evoked, to a statistically significant degree, images of males only
I'm actually astonished it wasn't nearly 100% - like I say, usage of the standalone word man (as opposed to the -man suffix) almost always means male.
The authors concluded, `This is rather convincing evidence that when you use the word man generically, people do tend to think male, and tend not to think female.
Well no shit Sherlock, they needed to do a test to find this out!? I could have saved them the money and just told them that's what they would find.
Drake University
Was that Drake in Des Moines?
I used to live about 60 miles from there - which in Iowa is virtually next door. Nothing but corn fields and dead skunks between us
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