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Author | Topic: Just What is (and what is wrong with) Political Correctness? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
He says at one point, "stamping out prejudice really means forcing everyone to share the same prejudice, namely that of whoever is in authority." EXACTLY! It's just another kind of conformism enforced by power, or among us plebes, by huffy ridicule, tones of indignant opprobrium etc. Lockstep mindless marching to the PC drummer is the objective, not true freedom from prejudice if even that were possible, and it isn't. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
My problem with it is that it seems to try to dictate feelings. We are supposed to go around feeling nice, politically correct feelings all the time. But people aren't that way. Thus they sometimes PRETEND to have such feelings. That's why I call it a pretense. Yes. DICTATES. The Thought Police as it has also been called. It encourages the opposite of freedom of thought, it encourages anxiety about having the right feelings, which is a level about which nobody should ever have to have anxiety, unless as a Christian you refer all your thoughts and feelings to God and ask Him to change them. Not your fellow man.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Homo Sapiens.
We are not discussing ethnicity.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You always seem to be having some conversation with yourself that doesn't relate to anything I'm talking about.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Is it or is it not "PC" to frown on the use of certain terms for ethnic groups? I find it rather pathetically parochial myself, nothing to get all het up about, maybe about as small-minded and unmannerly as getting in a moralistic meltdown about it, or maybe not quite that bad. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
duplicate
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
OK, so you agree that calling somebody of Italian decent a "dego Mafia wop" is small-minded and unmannerly, correct? Of course. I also think that what you are doing is smallminded and unmannerly. And off topic. If you were following the discussion you'd understand that PC is not about such things.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Actually, PC was a term coined by the right to describe liberal attempts to discourage hate speech that used terms such as nigger, wop, and kite. The Marxist revisionism is your personal fantasy. Only according to liberals who have a vested interest in not understanding it. It was driving me crazy in the 60s already, long before I had a name for it, and it wasn't about nigger, wop and kiKe. It was an aggressive hate war on the white race as the cancer of the world, on conservatives, who we all know are nothing but a bunch of Hitlers and jingoistic idiots; on America, which is really only an evil imperialist monster. Those who agree with such sentiments of course object to conservatives daring to characterize them as Thought Control or anything pejorative. It was militant in-your-face black activism, in some cases out and out thuggery (it was a murder that woke up David Horowitz). It was militant feminism, one group cheerily named The Society for Cutting Up Men, characterized by sneering contempt for any demented woman who liked the idea of marriage and family as a career, or horror of horrors identified herself as a "housewife." It was militant gay rights. I remember attending a "talk" with my ex in which the speaker got up and berated the assembled group for any thought that homosexuality might be an aberration, and accused all assembled of REALLY being homosexual but denying it. It was an abusive speech. Intimidation. That's PC. It's the abusiveness, the labeling, the smearing, the aggressive rejection of any other opinion, the enforced prohibition against thinking anything other than what they say you should think. It was such a relief finally to have a name for it, which I didn't have until the 90s, to read David Horowitz and others and find out where all that insanity came from. {edit: This is the classic conservative statement on PC, but it's frustrating because I don't know much about the context of it, or much about Bill Lind, and although he says the term originated in a comic strip he doesn't name the strip and I can't find another reference to it anywhere.} Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Robin, do you feel oppressed to the de-gendering of words, like using "chair" or "chairperson" instead of "chairman", "mail carrier" instead of "mail man", "police officer" instead of "police man", or "flight attendant" instead of "stewardess"? I do. I consider it idiotic and tyrannical and in many cases bad English, which comes up in the endless stumbling over the generic "his" and the requirement to substitute "their." Which I do to avoid endless nagging. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Perfect PC. Read David Horowitz. He helped engineer it all.
Sorry I forgot the context of SCUM. It was the tone of the era. And there were lots of "feminist" groups in those days with bizarre ideologies, one group that had "consciousness-raising" meetings reading Mao's Little Red Book, dressed in overalls and heavy boots. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Funny how violently the left has to tear down one of their own who sees the light.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You've just bought the propaganda. The Black Panthers were nothing but thugs and murderers merely exploiting the Civil Rights movement. Sociopaths, period. Horowitz was intimately involved with them at the time, until he saw through them.
This has nothing to do with the legitimate claims of the civil rights movement. And no, I wouldn't have reacted violently. Plenty didn't, as you acknowledge. I will not rationalize the violence as the left does and you are now doing. In the liberal San Francisco Bay Area yet, not even the South where they could maybe have made some degree of a righteous case for their criminal activity. There wasn't a shred of a righteous motive in their minds, it was all Hate Whitey and trash everything, and the Marxists were pushing them to it because of their own agenda, which is simply to bring down the West. You know, The Revolution. Horowitz was in the business of manufacturing the leftist propaganda that was driving me crazy at the time. Nothing made up about this, the leftist rhetoric was thick and inescapable. It took Horowitz a long time to change his views and he still has one foot in the left by some standards. No intellectual whore at all. A very honest guy who saw the light. And don't tell me I'm "unbelievable." That's rude. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
English needs a gender-neutral singular pronoun for hypotheticals. We were all trying to think one up in the days. All the inventions were just weirdly artificial. The fact is that the masculine IS gender-neutral. I always read it as neutral until feminism came along and complained about it.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Thanks for the information about the -man ending. That's how I always read it but I didn't know there was a grammatical defense for it.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
PC is really not about politeness or any legitimate political grievances. Those may provide a starting point or an excuse, but PC itself is an aggressive assault on thought and feeling, a hate package of incredible virulence against Designated Enemies who are just ordinary human beings.
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