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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5622 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
My neighbor grew some super tall sedge grass, brings back remembrence of how no other grasses was able to recieve enough sunlight to grow therein, if the dinosaurs habitat, tree canopies shielded the sun from the earth, only ferns with big leaves could survive under the canopy, etc...
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5622 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
JonF, Why not, the first wave of sediments preserved dino's habitat, later grasses pollens translocated from other habitats would of sorted in the waters sediments above with the different creatures of different densities not caught in the muck, being captured by the processes of liquefication, and other natural processes, etc...
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5622 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
Joe, The bible says there will be an earth quake so great not such has been since man was on this earth, so a lot of your sediments could of formed pre-flood, if one day to God is as a thousand of our years, then you could add 6 or 7 thousand years for your algae, to grow, limestone to form, corals to grow, pre-flood seas, etc... to the 4,350 years since the flood, when the flood came, it covered these pre-flood fossils, adding the flood sediments to fossilize the animals that sorted above to form the flood scene, too, etc...
P.S. If you add a few thousand years, it maybe everything balances out, and its still scriptural if one day to God is as a thousand years, etc...I really don't know enough about what fossils are where, it just that this just popped into my mind, whatif, one day to God is as a thousand of our years, kjv 2 peter 3:8, etc... [This message has been edited by whatever, 02-07-2004]
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5622 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
mark24, I would have to go to the library and study all your layers, if the creatures alive during the flood were buried with the preflood scene, and how the creatures sorted above the creatures that died and were buried in the preflood scene, it just seemed Joe was talking in part about a preflood scene, if it was, then it was teeming with life, might even explain your 5/6 percentages, and the rest just sorted above, etc...
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5622 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
mark24, If one day is as a thousand of our years, then genesis might be included in your the fossil record, this area could of been flooded bring in sand, possible volcanic sediment contributions, 6,000 years is a mighty long time till when the flood happened, but some of the creatures could of been buried alive within the mix, with the fossils sorting above as well, the bible mentions that the earth will shake not since men were upon the earth, it didn't say since life was upon the earth, kjv rev 16:18, etc...
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5622 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
loudmouth, I don't know, apparently they died during the flood, for who knows what reason, thought they had extra large eyes, I thought the ichthyosaur also perished in the flood because of a bony structure supporting the extra large eye, the eye wasn't designed for the increased pressures, when the eye burst, they then floated until they were sorted in the sediments, that the pressure of the ocean flood waters was greater than a part of their eye structure would allow, etc...
P.S. Something killed those C. megalodon, during the flood, so they were sorted above, etc... Preparing Mary the ichthyosaur at Charmouth Fossils Ophthalmosaur skullCan you see the large eye socket? The eyes had a ring of bone called a sclerotic ring to support them. Just a moment...
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5622 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
mark24, If I went to the library, what book would explain what creatures are in what layers, so I'd know what your talking about, etc...all I'm trying to say the Grand Canyon could of been beach front property, getting flooded occasionally, it wasn't until after the flood, that God put the bounds on the seas, so they wouldn't again cover the earth, kjv psalms 104:9.
P.S. I don't think 5/6 of the fossil record were buried pre-flood, but more would be preserved in a pre-flood marsh(that got flooded occasionally), if Joe wants to add 6,000 or 7,000 years pre-flood, it probably would be scriptural, and more in line with Genesis(if one day to God is as a thousand of our years), etc... [This message has been edited by whatever, 02-07-2004]
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5622 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
Walt mentions water lensing, he talks mentioned about water when its removed from some aquafiers, how these sediments will compress, and it no longer can be a aquafier(hold large volumes of water), this suggest sediment aquifiers were formed worldwide by the biblical flood, water lensing though works in tandum with liquefication, Walt site explains how its causing fossils to float up into these lens formed between different density particles these waters being pressed out, aiding liquification sorting in the above sediment layers, as water is being pressed out, and moved, so you have another mechanical principle aiding fossil sorting, water lensing working in tandum with liquefication, Walt doesn't believe the fossils were 90 percent pre-flood, etc...
P.S. I'm sure there is a whole lot to all the different senerio's, but the massive fossil record could only been preserved on a world wide scene, all your implications infer certain fossil layering happened similarly world wide, perhaps if one debates Walt, "they will have to come up with a mechanism explaining how the fossils at the world wide were similarily laid out over millions of years", its not like a river delta, where sediments are deposited continually, etc... Liquefaction During the Compression EventCenter for Scientific Creation – In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood The lowest slippage level was the Cambrian-Precambrian interface. Fossils are found almost exclusively above this interface. [See Missing Trunk on page 11.] Therefore, evolutionists interpret the Precambrian as about 90% of all geologic timea vast period, they believe, before life evolved. Again, time is mistakenly measured by sedimentary layers and their fossils. A Closer Look at LiquefactionCenter for Scientific Creation – In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood An important phenomenon, which will be called lensing, was anticipated and observed in the sediment tank. Some layers were more porous and permeable than others. If water could flow more easily up through one layer than the layer immediately above, a lens of water accumulated between them. Water lenses were usually at small angles to the horizontal. Water in these lenses always flowed uphill. [This message has been edited by whatever, 02-08-2004]
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5622 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
Walts looking at the big picture, accepts how fossils are settling today, he just doesn't agree that this is how fossils settled during the biblical flood, etc...
P.S. I liked how he explained how, as lens waters is pressed out, sediments compress, causing fish fossils to become paper thin, etc... [This message has been edited by whatever, 02-08-2004]
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