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Itachi Uchiha
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Message 29 of 308 (83327)
02-05-2004 9:50 AM


A common argument against the Bible involves varvesrock formations with alternating layers of fine dark, and coarse light sediment. Annual changes are assumed to deposit bands with light layers in summer and dark layers in winter. It is reported that some rock formations contain hundreds of thousands of varves, thereby ‘proving’ the earth is much older than the Bible says. But the assumption that each couplet always takes a year to form is wrong. Recent catastrophes show that violent events like the Flood described in Genesis can deposit banded rock formations very quickly. The Mount St. Helens eruption in Washington State produced eight metres (25 feet) of finely layered sediment in a single afternoon! And a rapidly pumped sand slurry was observed to deposit about a metre (3—4 feet) of fine layers on a beach over an area the size of a football field (cross-section shown on the right: normal silica sand grains are separated by darker layers of denser mineral grains like rutile).When sedimentation was studied in the laboratory, it was discovered that fine bands form automatically as the moving water transports the different sized particles sideways into position (right). Surprisingly, the thickness of each band was found to depend on the relative particle sizes rather than on the flow conditions. A layered rock (diatomite) was separated into its particles, and when redeposited in flowing fluid, identical layers formed.
Much is often made of the Green River varves,9 in Wyoming, USA. But these bands cannot possibly be annual deposits because well-preserved fish and birds are found all through the sediments.
It is unthinkable that these dead animals could have rested on the bottom of the lake for decades, being slowly covered by sediment. Their presence indicates catastrophic burial. It is often claimed that the fish and birds remained in prime condition at the bottom of the lake because the water was highly alkaline and this preserved their carcasses. Yet highly alkaline water causes organic material to disintegrate, and that is why alkaline powder is used in dishwashers! Another problem for the varve explanation is that the number of bands is not consistent across the formation as it should be if they were annual deposits.
by Tas walker

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Itachi Uchiha
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From: mayaguez, Puerto RIco
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Message 30 of 308 (83328)
02-05-2004 9:52 AM
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02-05-2004 9:50 AM


The petrified forests of Yellowstone National Park have often been used to argue against Bible chronology. These were once interpreted as buried and petrified in placeas many as 50 successive times, with a brand new forest growing upon the debris of the previous one. Naturally, such an interpretation would require hundreds of thousands of years to deposit the whole sequence and is inconsistent with the Bible time-scale. But this interpretation is also inconsistent with the fact that the tree trunks and stumps have been broken off at their base and do not have proper root systems. Furthermore, trees from different layers have the same ‘signature’ ring pattern, demonstrating that they all grew at the same time.
Rather than 50 successive forests, the geological evidence is more consistent with the trees having been uprooted from another place, and carried into position by catastrophic volcanic mudflowssimilar to what happened during the Mount St. Helens eruption in 1980, where waterlogged trees were also seen to float and sink with the root end pointing downwards.
by Tas Walker

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Itachi Uchiha
Member (Idle past 5645 days)
Posts: 272
From: mayaguez, Puerto RIco
Joined: 06-21-2003


Message 31 of 308 (83329)
02-05-2004 9:54 AM
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02-05-2004 9:52 AM


Another claim of bibliosceptics is that there are ‘too many fossils’. If all those animals could be resurrected, it is said, they would cover the entire planet to a depth of at least 0.5 metres (1.5 feet). So they could not have come from a single generation of living creatures buried by the Flood.
Not surprisingly, the substance disappears when the detail is examined. The number of fossils is calculated from an abnormal situationthe Karroo formation in South Africa. In this formation the fossils comprise a ‘fossil graveyard’the accumulation of animal remains in a local ‘sedimentary basin’. It is certainly improper to apply this abnormally high population density to the whole earth. The calculation also uses incorrect information on today’s animal population densities and takes no account of the different conditions that likely applied before the Flood.
by Tas Walker

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Itachi Uchiha
Member (Idle past 5645 days)
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From: mayaguez, Puerto RIco
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Message 33 of 308 (83337)
02-05-2004 10:21 AM
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02-05-2004 10:14 AM


i know that wasnt exactly the topic but i thought you would find these bits of some articles interesting just like i did. sorry for getting of topic,

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