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yenmor
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Message 400 of 759 (702174)
07-02-2013 1:54 AM
Reply to: Message 398 by Minnemooseus
07-01-2013 10:11 PM


Re: Side note - Bill Clinton, DOMA, then and now
Clinton could have gone all out and lost his second term. Which would have meant a republican would have won and we'd be set back by about 30 years in regard to gay rights issues. Bush was pretty tame about being anti-gay, and look how far back he managed to set the movement.
What Clinton did was strategic. And being strategic doesn't always make you look consistent.

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yenmor
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Message 445 of 759 (702649)
07-10-2013 1:42 PM
Reply to: Message 440 by Faith
07-10-2013 10:51 AM


Faith writes:
Gay marriage is of course just the latest attempt to bring down civilization by such as the ACLU and the rest of the revisionist "legal" system. I can bash THAT sort of criminal insanity too if you like.
First of all, please know that I do not doubt your sincerity regarding this topic.
I'm a man currently living with another man. At the moment, he is still in college, so we've decided to hold off everything until he's done with everything. We understand other people's disdain of our relationship, which is why every time my family has a family meet (like this past 4th of July celebration) I would always attend alone.
We both want to raise a family together down the road. We both want to share the same insurance policy, the same tax reports, etc.
What advice can you give us in this matter? How should we go about raising a family together, if at all?

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yenmor
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Message 449 of 759 (702680)
07-10-2013 7:17 PM
Reply to: Message 446 by Faith
07-10-2013 6:24 PM


I'm wondering if there is anything I can say to change your mind.
Let's take a look at one thing at a time.
Faith writes:
I believe children need a stable traditional family with heterosexual parents so I don't think gays should have children at all. I also understand that there is evidence children raised by gays tend to be depressed, which makes sense to me.
According to the latest research in this matter, researchers have consistently reached the result that children with same-sex parents tend to be healthier than children with hetero-parents.
World's largest study on gay parents finds the kids are more than all right | Salon.com
Children of same-sex couples thriving: study
Study: Children of Same-Sex Parents Are Healthier Than Peers
ACHESS — The Australian study of child health in same-sex families: background research, design and methodology | BMC Public Health | Full Text
Gay Parents Raise Healthier Kids: Study Debated On HuffPost Live | HuffPost Voices
Study Debunks Claim That Kids of Same-Sex Parents Do Less Well | Southern Poverty Law Center
Would it be fair for me to say that if my partner and I start adopting children that they will fair better than if they spend their lives in the system until they turn 18?

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yenmor
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Message 461 of 759 (702701)
07-10-2013 11:16 PM
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07-10-2013 9:48 PM


I'm puzzled about something. Biased or not, those sites cited the most recent study. I even posted a link to the published article itself. Do you dispute the researchers' findings? If so, which parts?
Also, could you post the statistics to support your claim so we could discuss them?

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