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Phat Member Posts: 18353 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
subbie writes: The guy's a scam artist, and the fact that you fall for his line of bullshit says more about your intelligent than anything else you've ever done here. Critics have successfully exposed Stansberrys agenda, but there are other more reputable newsletters that say essentially the same thing.----> Martin D. Weiss, Ph.D. jar writes: Point well taken, jar. Are you telling me though that these guys are wrong in that prices will sharply rise in the US in the future? Surely there has to be a way out of this mess.
Someone has to be really really stupid not to notice that the very folk that see the dollar as becoming worthless are also the very folk that are happy to take those soon to be worthless dollars in exchange for what they claim will be the only things of value. fearandloathing writes: A fat lot of good that would do. I dont plan on shooting anyone nor do i relish living like a survivalist. You can buy gold, I'll spend my money on dried foods and ammunition if I want to plan for future, me thinks they might be more valuable than gold, at least to me. Some questions. 1) If gasoline triples in price, wont food prices also likely do the same? Who in their right mind can afford such a future?2) Is Martin Weiss also a scammer? He has been on CNN. Similar Apocolyptic Video I guess im just worried. I dont forsee the beast of revelation, but worry that we ourselves would turn into such a beast if our economy tanks.
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Phat Member Posts: 18353 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Since the US government has no money, where would they get it from? The third way is to print it, and from what is being said, they are printing quite a lot now. (figuratively speaking) They are increasing the money supply which will eventually lead to inflation as we pull out of the recession.
I know of only two sources. They could raise taxes. Or they could continue as they have over the last 2 years and borrow it from anyone willing to lend it to us. quote:It all adds up to bad news for the Americans.
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Phat Member Posts: 18353 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
crashfrog writes: It seems to me that the only way the US is going to get any kind of a handle on its debt is to raise interest rates and create an economic climate where inflation runs rampant. The only way the US is going to get a handle on its debts is when the economy starts growing again, and the national debt becomes less and less of a fraction of GDP. The only way out of debt for a government is to grow its way out. You can't model a nation's economy as a function of kitchen table finances. The only other problem is overpopulation. Too many people are coming in that are not fully educated and who do nothing more than stress our natural resources and our ability to earn a decent living.
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Phat Member Posts: 18353 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
crashfrog writes: What would be wrong with enforcing our immigration laws. Besides the fact that they're unfair, racist, deeply punitive, counterproductive, and meant to stop a "problem" that doesn't exist (supposed economic "losses" from low-skill immigration)? Right now, our union is the only thing keeping the corporation from hiring illegals to stock the shelves at night. Were they allowed to do so, it would lower the wage of every one of us through attrition, as we would compete with each other for the limited hours left available. A lower middle class American can barely feed a family of four on twenty five thousand a year, but the new wage would be $12,500.00 a year...half as much as before. Whom does this demand help? Corporate stockholders and to a limited degree consumers.(though prices would not go much lower) Whom does it hurt? 14,000 lower middle class workers displaced into a hostile economy and likely forced to go on government assistance. Edited by Phat, : fixed mistakes
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Phat Member Posts: 18353 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Yes. Right now, our contract covers every area in the store except floor maintenance, and floor maintenance is essentially 100% non English speaking immigrants. Our manager is so cheap, however, he even let one of them go and now makes us empty the trash in addition to our regular duties. (Which I dont complain about. )
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Phat Member Posts: 18353 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Why is there pressure to lower our wages then? Who should I blame?
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Phat Member Posts: 18353 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
jar writes: That still offers no support for your assertions. You present no evidence that they are illegal. They do not effect your jobs. No one is competing for those jobs. My mistake. My assertions are not that illegal immigrants are competing for the back-of-store jobs. You say that noone is competing for these jobs, reason being that nobody in the union who already has a position desires to switch to the available positions. The neighborhood I am in has 200 different cultures within a five square mile radius. It is one of the most diverse neighborhoods in the US. And yet English is the primary language that most folks know. We dont need to promote ethnic enclaves where immigrants dont have to assimilate. Besides....While having some workers who speak other languages useful, the union prevents them from displacing a veteran such as myself who is good at what he does and worth every dime he is paid.
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Phat Member Posts: 18353 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
crashfrog writes: Why is there pressure to lower our wages then? You don't think 12% unemployment (or higher) has something to do with it? Thats the problem. The politicians pledge to create new jobs, but the jobs they create are in many cases entry level ones. Labor should be more than simply a line item commodity. Having better paid workers stimulates the economy more than entry level workers can do. Yes, you say that we need to show value to the employer. I agree.
Supermarket Employment:
Good Jobs at Good Wages? writes: if we become more valuable for the company, is there any reason to keep trying to lower wages? As the service sector has come to account for most U.S. employment, researchers areasking whether service jobs can provide the livable wages and security that manufacturing jobs have in the past, particularly for workers without post-secondary education. This paper addresses that question by presenting a case study of a unionized supermarket firm, supplemented with industry data. The findings are that the supermarket industry has changed in the past several decades: while it once provided full-time, well-paid jobs, the majority of workers now hold part-time, low-wage positions. This change is due to increased competition and de-unionization within the industry(...)One employee we interviewed said that when he was hired in the 1970s, his friends were envious, because You started at big money. According to wage data supplied by Giant, a full-time food clerk with six months tenure who was hired prior to 1979 was earning $10 an hour (not adjusted for inflation). (...) Still, the blame does not all go to the company; more and more workers are seeking immediate gratification instead of being willing to wait a number of years to be promoted. The part-timers aren’t looking at supermarket jobs as potential career jobs. At some point, the quality of the applicants decreases. Nobody wants to work as hard as we do for minimum wage.
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Phat Member Posts: 18353 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0
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jar writes: Buzsaw writes: Gold has been racking up new all time high records these days. Silver follows, hitting over $40 an oz. Copper at $4.45 a lb, Lead at $1.30, the grains, crude oil, gasoline, food and just about all commodities way up. These stats are ever increasing in momentum, indicative of the monetary tsunami that has been for-warned in the OP video. HUH? Commodity prices are going up. Where is the tsunami? Once food prices quadruple due to gasoline tripling, the average consumer will be unable to handle the prices, and rebellion will begin.
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Phat Member Posts: 18353 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
jar writes: HUH? What percentage of the cost of food is directly related to gasoline? Figures please. I cant find any hardline sources, but saw where a retailer estimated that 15% of the cost of food was related to transportation costs.
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Phat Member Posts: 18353 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
ok. I was taking poetic license...but anyway whats your point?
The belief is that things will simply get too expensive for the average person to handle. We wont have any money left to save for our futures. Edited by Phat, : No reason given.
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