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Buzsaw
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Message 1 of 121 (610868)
04-01-2011 11:59 PM


This Utube information is a must listen to for all Americans, especially if you have $$ assets.
The $$ is tumbling and the end of America as we know it could happen sooner than you think. It's time to prepare before it's too late.
A penny for your thoughts after you've listened, payable the 2nd Tuesday of next week.
The Lybian coalition thing is all about establishing a global military for the New World Order.
The Obama Admin/George Soros plans to crash the $$ so as to make all Americans poor in order to be controlled, likely before the 2012 elections, will set the stage for the New World Order/10 horned beast of Revelation global monetary system.
The one world monetary system, prophesied in Revelation 13 could happen relatively suddenly when the global currency dominoes begin to fall in the nations, the US, likely to be the first to go as nations are beginning to sell and reject American dollars.
ABE: I know that at the end there is something being sold, likely involving gold/silver mining call and put options or something like that, but for the most part, it's pertinent info, even in the sales pitch.
Coffee Shop my preference if it's up and running ok.
Edited by Buzsaw, : Add Paragraph.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 29 of 121 (610931)
04-03-2011 7:54 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by crashfrog
04-03-2011 5:23 PM


The Inflation Scam
crashfrog writes:
I don't disagree with that but I just don't see that happening without having an economy where the dollar will buy considerably less than it will today.
We want the dollar to buy less in the future than it will today. That's something we want to happen - it's better for people who have debt, which is basically everyone, and it promotes investment and the flow of capital instead of people simply hoarding dollars in a Scrooge McDuck-style money pool.
Inflation is a good thing.
Tell it to the Germans who swept billions in mark bills up in the streets when the sheeple caught on to the government's policy of inflating the sheeple's marks until their savings became worthless and everyone became broke.
Way back in the 1960s and 70s Howard Ruff and Gary North etc were warning that sooner or later that unbacked paper $$ would inflate via the printing presses and lead to what is happening today as the sheeple's 401ks and other $$ savings are evaporating.
Inflation becomes a form of insidious taxation as the government lessens it's debt obligation via inflating the debt so as for the sheeple to pay for the government fat cats who spend like money grows on trees, who pass oppressive laws on the sheeple while they and their cronies are exempt from them. The monstrous health care bill is a good example where Obama's union buds and other special interests who help keep Democrats elected are exempt.
Crashfrog, what you are proposing is similar to pyramid scams that work for awhile and then leave the investors in the lurch.
Having read things like "None Dare Call It Treason" by John Stormer, 1964 and similar books, I have been predicting runaway inflation and been called a conspiratist wing nut ever since.
Way back in 1965 after you could no longer take your paper into banks and trade for silver coinage, I've been predicting eventual runaway inflation. Unbacked money, historically always eventually crashes.
Edited by Buzsaw, : correct a word

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 30 of 121 (610933)
04-03-2011 8:01 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by jar
04-03-2011 10:02 AM


Re: There's a sucker born every minute.
jar writes:
Someone has to be really really stupid not to notice that the very folk that see the dollar as becoming worthless are also the very folk that are happy to take those soon to be worthless dollars in exchange for what they claim will be the only things of value.
"This way to the EGRESS folk."
But I'll admit his spiel is almost as funny as the Biblical Prophecy preachers.
Someone has to be really, really stupid to think that the guy who is glad to accept $$ for his services today will not invest those $$ in something of real value before the $$ evaporate away.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 33 of 121 (610937)
04-03-2011 8:14 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by crashfrog
04-03-2011 2:26 PM


Re: Is there no need for concern?
Crashfrog writes:
The government should give people money, to buy things:
Who do you think the government is, Crashfrog? It's we the people. It's our wealth that you want the bureaucrats to drop out of helicopters to anyone who will spend it.
I tell you what. Since some of us are reluctant to spread our hard earned $$ around to deadbeats and non-working takers, how about you getting up your own little organization and collect up your organization's $$ and spread your wealth around. If that works out for you folks, then the rest of us who are the government of the people by the people will consider your proposal.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 36 of 121 (610940)
04-03-2011 8:23 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by crashfrog
04-03-2011 8:14 PM


Re: There's a sucker born every minute.
crashfrog writes:
Someone has to be really, really stupid to think that the guy who is glad to accept $$ for his services today will not invest those $$ in something of real value before the $$ evaporate away.
So why aren't you out buying that, stupid?
Buying what? I don't know what he is buying. As for me, I've never had a lot of $$ to buy a lot of gold. I buy variety of a lot of stuff. Actually, I've been selling my gold and buying other stuff with the money that I figure will work even better than gold for me and mine in the hard times coming ahead.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 38 of 121 (610942)
04-03-2011 8:27 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by subbie
04-03-2011 8:16 PM


Re: The Inflation Scam
subbie writes:
Way back in 1965 after you could no longer take your paper into banks and trade for silver coinage, I've been predicting eventual runaway inflation. Unbacked money, historically always eventually crashes.
Hmmm, you mean 46 years of being wrong doesn't lead you to even consider the possibility that you're mistaken? Color me astounded.
Subbie, you need to read me more carefully. You must have missed that word, eventural. So far the proverbial snowball has been gradually growing as it rolls down the hill. Sooner or later it will grow big enough to destroy everything in it's path.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 41 of 121 (610947)
04-03-2011 8:48 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by crashfrog
04-03-2011 8:19 PM


Re: Is there no need for concern?
Crashfrog writes:
I don't want to take any of your money. I want to print up new money and drop it from helicopters. It's not hard to understand. I'm not suggesting that the government should raise taxes and then redistribute the revenue. I'm saying the government should print new money and give it away.
So you're still oblivious to the fact that when the money printers print up new money, they are robbing from the sheeple by deflating the buying power of their savings.
Crashfrog, come, let us reason together. Suppose it became possible to turn iron ore into gold. It wouldn't take long for the gold to loose it power due to the dreg on the market by the over abundance of gold.
In the first place, the government hasn't printed any money since President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Bill, signing over to the privately owned central bankers the priviledge of printing money so as to lend it to the sheeple's government so as to enrich themselves by collecting the interest from the government/sheeple who now must borrow the printed money from the private bankers.
Like deflating the value of gold by producing it from iron ore, the sheeple's money is devalued/robbed by the central bankers and the government who devaluate the sheeple's money via the printing presses rolling out paper reserve notes. Sooner or later, like the Germans and numerous other historical monetary basket cases, America's sheeple like you will wake up broke and under tyrannical oppression. Dictator types like Soros and Obama take over by impoverishing the sheeple first. The quickest way to accomplish that is to devalue their wealth and impoverish them all so as to become dependent on government.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 48 of 121 (610970)
04-04-2011 10:11 AM
Reply to: Message 47 by sac51495
04-04-2011 6:41 AM


Re: The Inflation Scam
sac51495 writes:
Crashfrog,
Your graphs are deceptive. I suspect that this graph is based on the common economic principle that says inflation is an increase in the average price of commodities (is that right?). Lots of major economists teach this.
But the other side of the story is that many major economists define inflation as an increase in the aggregate money supply. These economists define then as the root cause of inflation the printing of money, or perhaps an increase in the percentage of money printing (because naturally, for the value of the dollar to remain constant, more must be printed to keep up with population growth). Some say an increase in prices and an increase in the money supply are synonymous. Not necessarily.
Printed money is not necessarily invested in the U.S. economy. Some of the money can be used to prop up dictators in foreign countries, such as Mubarak of Egypt. Or it can be invested in an attempt to knock them down, as in the case of Gaddafi of Libya. Its all political. We decided at some point that we like Mubarak (even though he is no less tyrannical than Gaddafi) and we hate Gaddafi. The solution is neutrality, but that is another subject for another thread.
Or the money could be used to build squirrel bridges (about this, I am not kidding). Or it could be used to study the effects of marijuana on men living in Turkey. Or $10,000 worth of it could be used to put up one sign informing passers-by that stimulus money is being used to improve a runway. Yes, $10,000 for one sign.
Spending money like this won't show up in the price of goods immediately. It just wastes wealth by investing it in useless places. Which economy do you think will do better? The one investing in squirrel bridges, or the one investing in the establishment of justice? The source of our economic theory is not in John Maynard Keynes, or even in Ludwig von Mises. It is in God.
Hi Sac. Good points. Not to mention the up to ten billion which might need to be printed for loans allocated to Brazil's Petrobros (heavily invested in by Obama's bud, George Soros) to drill oil off Brazil's shore and perhaps in the gulf etc all the while forbidding drilling by our own oil companies in the gulf and in Alaska, etc.
Soros sold his common shares of Petrobros and bought the higher dividend paying preferred shares.
Not to mention the funding of leftist organizations like Public Radio, Planned Parenthood, rehashed Acorn organizations, perk bridges to nowhere projects favoring labor unions etc.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 54 of 121 (610980)
04-04-2011 1:11 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by jar
04-04-2011 10:31 AM


Re: Planned Parenthood
jar writes:
Can you explain how Planned Parenthood could possible be a leftest organization or are you just once again making unfounded and false statements?
Their leftist pro-death abortion big business is a starter. If you want to go further, you'll need to do a thread on it. Count me out. It's a no brainer, needing no debate which most conservatives and liberals alike understand.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 55 of 121 (610981)
04-04-2011 1:14 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by ringo
04-04-2011 11:35 AM


ringo writes:
Phat writes:
Too many people are coming in that are not fully educated and who do nothing more than stress our natural resources and our ability to earn a decent living.
The migrant workers and the illegals come because there's a demand for their labour. If you want to compete with them, you have to make those jobs more attractive to American workers - e.g. by paying decent wages and benefits.
Or to outlaw the jobs they do, obliging the companies, under penalty of law, to hire legals only.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 71 of 121 (611009)
04-04-2011 5:04 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by DrJones*
04-04-2011 2:25 PM


DrJones* writes:
Or to outlaw the jobs they do, obliging the companies, under penalty of law, to hire legals only.
Typical leftist Buz, wanting Big Government to order private companies around.
How is it leftist for government to obligate companies to obey the law by not hiring illegals, aiding and abetting their illegal status?

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 107 of 121 (611492)
04-08-2011 10:05 AM


Are You Following The Commodity Prices?
Gold has been racking up new all time high records these days. Silver follows, hitting over $40 an oz. Copper at $4.45 a lb, Lead at $1.30, the grains, crude oil, gasoline, food and just about all commodities way up.
These stats are ever increasing in momentum, indicative of the monetary tsunami that has been for-warned in the OP video.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 111 of 121 (611504)
04-08-2011 11:57 AM
Reply to: Message 110 by jar
04-08-2011 11:05 AM


Re: Are You Following The Commodity Prices?
jar writes:
HUH?
What percentage of the cost of food is directly related to gasoline?
Figures please.
The answer is 100% because 100% of both relate directly to the falling $$ and to the correlated rise in gold which has advanced the last seven sessions in a row to an all time high.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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