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jar
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Message 5 of 121 (610879)
04-03-2011 10:02 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Buzsaw
04-01-2011 11:59 PM


There's a sucker born every minute.
Someone has to be really really stupid not to notice that the very folk that see the dollar as becoming worthless are also the very folk that are happy to take those soon to be worthless dollars in exchange for what they claim will be the only things of value.
"This way to the EGRESS folk."
But I'll admit his spiel is almost as funny as the Biblical Prophecy preachers.

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jar
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Message 14 of 121 (610900)
04-03-2011 3:08 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Phat
04-03-2011 2:14 PM


Re: Is there no need for concern?
Phat writes:
jar writes:
Someone has to be really really stupid not to notice that the very folk that see the dollar as becoming worthless are also the very folk that are happy to take those soon to be worthless dollars in exchange for what they claim will be the only things of value.
Point well taken, jar. Are you telling me though that these guys are wrong in that prices will sharply rise in the US in the future? Surely there has to be a way out of this mess.
Hopefully prices will rise in the future, but that is totally irrelevant to this topic.
The point is "If the dollar is gonna be so worthless, how come they want those dollars?"

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jar
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Message 43 of 121 (610949)
04-03-2011 9:00 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by Buzsaw
04-03-2011 8:48 PM


The laughs just keep coming.
quote:
Like deflating the value of gold by producing it from iron ore,
Yup, that might do it...
quote:
the sheeple's money is devalued/robbed by the central bankers and the government who devaluate the sheeple's money via the printing presses rolling out paper reserve notes.
Ah, the great selective monetary devaluation weapon that devalues the sheeples money while maintaining and even inflating the non-sheeples money.
Man, this is getting even funnier than the god Buz tries to market.

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jar
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Message 50 of 121 (610972)
04-04-2011 10:31 AM
Reply to: Message 48 by Buzsaw
04-04-2011 10:11 AM


Re: The Inflation Scam
Buzsaw writes:
Not to mention the funding of leftist organizations like Public Radio, Planned Parenthood, rehashed Acorn organizations, perk bridges to nowhere projects favoring labor unions etc.
I'm sorry but once again, do you have any evidence to support your assertions or are these as baseless and worthless as all the other claims you've made?
Can you explain how Planned Parenthood could possible be a leftest organization or are you just once again making unfounded and false statements?

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jar
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Message 52 of 121 (610974)
04-04-2011 11:06 AM
Reply to: Message 51 by Phat
04-04-2011 10:46 AM


Phat writes:
crashfrog writes:
It seems to me that the only way the US is going to get any kind of a handle on its debt is to raise interest rates and create an economic climate where inflation runs rampant.
The only way the US is going to get a handle on its debts is when the economy starts growing again, and the national debt becomes less and less of a fraction of GDP.
The only way out of debt for a government is to grow its way out. You can't model a nation's economy as a function of kitchen table finances.
The only other problem is overpopulation. Too many people are coming in that are not fully educated and who do nothing more than stress our natural resources and our ability to earn a decent living.
HUH?
How about all of the very well educated that come in?
How do they stress our natural resources and our ability to earn a decent living?
Do they not pay taxes?

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jar
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Message 57 of 121 (610985)
04-04-2011 1:29 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by Buzsaw
04-04-2011 1:11 PM


Re: Planned Parenthood
Buzsaw writes:
jar writes:
Can you explain how Planned Parenthood could possible be a leftest organization or are you just once again making unfounded and false statements?
Their leftist pro-death abortion big business is a starter. If you want to go further, you'll need to do a thread on it. Count me out. It's a no brainer, needing no debate which most conservatives and liberals alike understand.
I'm sorry but "leftist pro-death abortion big business"?
You have some support for that or is this just another example of your making false and unsupported assertions and then running away like a lying coward?

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jar
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Message 78 of 121 (611020)
04-04-2011 7:42 PM
Reply to: Message 77 by Phat
04-04-2011 7:40 PM


Re: One Example: Grocery Stores
Phat writes:
crashfrog writes:
What would be wrong with enforcing our immigration laws.
Besides the fact that they're unfair, racist, deeply punitive, counterproductive, and meant to stop a "problem" that doesn't exist (supposed economic "losses" from low-skill immigration)?
Right now, our union is the only thing keeping the corporation from hiring illegals to stock the shelves at night. Were they allowed to do so, it would lower the wage of every one of us through attrition, as we would compete with each other for the limited hours left available. A lower middle class American can barely feed a family of four on twenty five thousand a year, but the new wage would be $12,500.00 a year...half as much as before. Whom does this demand help? Corporate stockholders and to a limited degree consumers.(though prices would not go much lower) Whom does it hurt? $14,000 middle class citizens displaced into a hostile economy and likely forced to go on government assistance.
I'm sorry but do you have any support for that assertion?

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jar
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Message 81 of 121 (611023)
04-04-2011 7:47 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by Phat
04-04-2011 7:44 PM


Re: One Example: Grocery Stores
Phat writes:
Yes. Right now, our contract covers every area in the store except floor maintenance, and floor maintenance is essentially 100% non English speaking immigrants. Our manager is so cheap, however, he even let one of them go and now makes us empty the trash in addition to our regular duties. (Which I dont complain about. )
That still offers no support for your assertions.
You present no evidence that they are illegal.
They do not effect your jobs.
No one is competing for those jobs.
In other words, not one of your assertions is supported.

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jar
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Message 88 of 121 (611037)
04-04-2011 8:36 PM
Reply to: Message 87 by fearandloathing
04-04-2011 8:30 PM


fearandloathing writes:
Thank you and frog for explaining your position, and for most part I agree.
I mentioned a better guest worker program and I think the "illegal" immigrant status is something that needs to be addressed, for the benefit of all. If there was no market for people who felt they had to work cheap then we all would benefit. Am I wrong?
And it could be addressed easily and quickly by removing the exempted industries from the minimum wage laws, and by setting minimum wages as a percentage of the poverty level instead of a specific dollar amount.

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jar
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Message 93 of 121 (611113)
04-05-2011 2:25 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by xongsmith
04-05-2011 2:22 PM


Kinda, more likely based on the annual poverty level / normal annual hours worked.

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jar
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Message 98 of 121 (611137)
04-05-2011 5:23 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by Rahvin
04-05-2011 5:12 PM


Re: One Example: Grocery Stores
Rahvin writes:
What makes you think you should blame undocumented workers? What's your rational basis for determining that they even might be at fault? Do you even know whether your floor workers are actually undocumented, as opposed to simply not speaking English well? Maybe they just prefer their first language?
As the neighborhood changes so that the local language becomes Hispanic, or Asian, or Middle Eastern, it is likely that those workers who are fluent in the locally used first language would be of greater value and so should be paid more than an English speaking only employee.
I would think that would be especially true in a business like a grocery store.

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jar
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From: Texas!!
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Message 103 of 121 (611145)
04-05-2011 6:28 PM
Reply to: Message 102 by Phat
04-05-2011 6:23 PM


Re: One Example: Grocery Stores
Phat writes:
Besides....While having some workers who speak other languages useful, the union prevents them from displacing a veteran such as myself who is good at what he does and worth every dime he is paid.
Why? Does that make any sense?
If the neighborhood changes shouldn't the store change to reflect the neighborhood?
How is retaining a person whose value has diminished reasonable?

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jar
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Message 105 of 121 (611148)
04-05-2011 6:41 PM
Reply to: Message 104 by Phat
04-05-2011 6:37 PM


Re: One Example: Grocery Stores
Phat writes:
Nobody wants to work as hard as we do for minimum wage.
Really, or do you mean that YOU don't want that?
Are you saying no one would take your job at the entry level wage?

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jar
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Message 108 of 121 (611495)
04-08-2011 10:32 AM
Reply to: Message 107 by Buzsaw
04-08-2011 10:05 AM


Re: Are You Following The Commodity Prices?
Buzsaw writes:
Gold has been racking up new all time high records these days. Silver follows, hitting over $40 an oz. Copper at $4.45 a lb, Lead at $1.30, the grains, crude oil, gasoline, food and just about all commodities way up.
These stats are ever increasing in momentum, indicative of the monetary tsunami that has been for-warned in the OP video.
HUH?
Commodity prices are going up.
Where is the tsunami?

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jar
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Message 110 of 121 (611498)
04-08-2011 11:05 AM
Reply to: Message 109 by Phat
04-08-2011 11:02 AM


Re: Are You Following The Commodity Prices?
HUH?
What percentage of the cost of food is directly related to gasoline?
Figures please.

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