Catholicism versus Protestantism down the centuries

Julius Caesar didn't author a revelation of his mind, but God did author a revelation of His.abe: All Bible believers have access to God's mindEdited by Faith, : No reason given.

Of course you're accusing me of being crazy, so what. I answered straight, take it straight.

Thank you for expressing your opinion. You may sit down now.

People can of course twist the Bible but it's not really all that hard to understand most of it if you approach it honestly.

Three or four when you get down to it. Divided on minor points.

Only if they disagree on major points. Then yes they are dishonest.

Yes, three or four divided on minor points.

I'll go with that, although of course I'd reverse the adjectives.

First, I don't count any church that is liberal or denies the Bible in any part, and that is true of branches of many denominations these days. Presbyterians and Lutherans have both conservative and liberal branches. So do Baptists. Episcopalians and Methodists are pretty exclusively liberal although they have some conservative members, perhaps even conservative assemblies. If an Episcopalian assembly is conservative and holds to salvation by faith in Christ alone then I would not classify it as having more than minor differences with Southern Baptists.

Weird. I'm doing nothing but reflecting what is normally understood by Christians to define Christian churches. The majority that share a basic belief in the entire Bible are the Christians, those who reject parts of it may or may not be saved but they are compromisers so I don't include them among the vast majority who share my beliefs. abe: They won't stand with us when we refuse to recognize gay marriage. /abeThere are many denominations that differ on secondary points, on whether babies or only believers should be baptized, how a church should be governed, whether the supernatural gifts are for today or not, the definition of free will, to what extent the scriptures imply the "church" by the term "Israel" as opposed to the literal state of Israel, which interpretation of scriptures on the end times will turn out to be truest, and so on.Denominations are created by differences of opinion on such issues, but they are all Christian churches nevertheless to the extent they all share the same view of salvation by grace alone, and of the role of God's law in society. abe: I could attend any of these churches as long as we agree on the basics whether I agree with them on these secondary points or not /abeImputing these opinions to me as if I made them up myself shows a strange lack of understanding of the true situation, while at the same time you all assert some other point of view that reflects no reality I know of. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Sorry but there is no biblical way to support gay marriage.Later abe: Feel like elaborating: I gather you are saying that your father was not a "conservative/fundamentalist" Christian but you don't say in what way. Perhaps he was a liberal Presbyterian then who denied parts of the Bible? I don't know, I'm guessing but I was in that kind of Presbyterian church for a while and had to leave because of all the compromised teaching I was hearing from the pulpit.You don't say what sort of deep thought your father did about the racial problem, did he consult the Bible or what? His conclusion was quite biblical, however, and if that's what he based it on then I would assume he'd have approached the gay marriage issue from a biblical position as well. But if he did, the result would have been the decision that he couldn't support it because that's what the Bible would have to lead him to conclude. And of course you don't know since he died before there was any way of knowing. /abeEdited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.