Another one that hurts

I don't think I do.Thank-you for the response.
Everything you just stated here agrees with everything I stated in my first two posts Message 337 and Message 339.We seem to agree completely.

Sheesh, speak for yourself. Ever hear the term empathy? How about altruism, even in animals? How about the Golden Rule? At the very least, how about blowback/consequences of not concerning yourself about other people? Yeah Tangle, I guess your type would be shocked to hear that SOME people do hear the screams of others. THEY hold life cheap? THEY?Sayeth a citizen of Britain whose repeated support of war-criminal Tony Blair had caused the illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq which caused up to a million innocent civilian deaths. Tony Blair still walks the streets of London freely, doesn't he? To sociopathic Brits, it's as if Tony swatted a few gnats, and nothing worse. And you have the audacity to say THEY hold life cheap? Yeah, just take a look at the following good ol' freedom, democracy, and fraternity your country imported into Iraq. I can see why you would be proud.

What sanctimonious bollocks.It's a simple matter of fact that we care more about our family, friends and nationals (in that order) than about distant people we don't know. We also care more about our way of life that distant people's way of life. That's non-controversial. That's not that we don't care at all, it's that we don't care as much. If we cared the same for an starving child in Botswana we'd treat her the same as our own daughter - we can't and we don't. As is evidenced by you safely posting on an internet forum instead of working for the Red Cross in a war zone. Yes they do. That's why they blow themselves and others of the same faith up. Again, I'm not referring to all Muslims. Now your just being a dick.

Your irony detector is malfunctioning. The implication is that WE too hold life cheap; we just have a different price list: lives of other faiths are cheaper; lives of people standing beside terrorists are dirt cheap.

Oh yeah, no doubt, from the photo below, I can tell you Brits don't care quite as much about the innocent civilians of Iraq as yourselves. No doubt. Kudos Tangle, you sure corrected me. Sayeth a citizen of Britain whose repeated support of war-criminal Tony Blair had caused the illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq which caused up to a million innocent civilian deaths. Tony Blair still walks the streets of London freely, doesn't he? To sociopathic Brits, it's as if Tony swatted a few gnats, and nothing worse.Yep, THEY sure hold life cheap.

Sorry Dronestar, I'll not responding to this self-righteous posturing.

Sayeth a citizen of Britain whose repeated support of war-criminal Tony Blair had caused the illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq which caused up to a million innocent civilian deaths. Tony Blair still walks the streets of London freely, doesn't he? To sociopathic Brits, it's as if Tony swatted a few gnats, and nothing worse.Yep, THEY hold life cheap.

Ah, so this is why you sounded parochial...it was just you being racist. I understand.

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As I said, I haven't been persuaded there is any need to do anything {to better integrate Muslims into British society}

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So much is obvious.

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Meanwhile several hundred people died in Paris

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You think this is a problem?

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This is such a crass thing to say

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6 score deaths and you think this is a blip on the radar of problems that we face?

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You made the incredibly crass point that only 200 people died in the French massacre, as if body count had anything to do with it or worse, doesn't matter.

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You brought the body count up. Two dimensional baddies are what ISIS do.We can do better. If the fanatics hold life cheap, why does so much of their propaganda focus on making people sad and angry about innocent deaths from American bombs etc? Theocracy, dogma and terror are to be expected from a collapsing empire. At this point, we won't see the region adopting moderate Islam until stability. We can't make moderate Islam occur in order to achieve stability, I believe.

Nice. I was rather hoping that sort of crude, bullshit attempt to close down a conversation belonged in the past. But it seems not.

Turnabout is fair play, I feel. I notice you in fact, have closed down the conversation.If you don't like 'racist', you can invent your own word to mean 'People of another culture, creed and race are less important than people of my own'. It won't smell any better.

Try to answer this question honestly.Would the death of your child matter to you more than the death of a child in the newspaper that you did not know.

The force irony and hypocrisy is strong with this one.

Wow, to cover your racism, the above question is the best spin you could invent?Pathetic.

There is no implication.Suicide bombers, by definition, value their lives less than you or I do.Where are you having the difficulty here?

Your point isn't clear to me. Are you rebutting Tangle's argument that some culture's *are* morally better than others by arguing that the west is no better than ISIS? Or Tangle's argument that people naturally care most about those most like themselves? Or are you just going after Tangle? Brits in general?--Percy