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Amlodhi
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Message 145 of 298 (72669)
12-13-2003 10:29 AM
Reply to: Message 143 by Buzsaw
12-13-2003 9:00 AM


Re: Reply to your simple question for Buzsaw
quote:
Originally posted by buzsaw
According to the Encyclopedia Judaica, p. 680, vol. 7, ?the true pronunciation of the tetragrammaton YHWH was never lost. The name was pronounced Yahweh.
Here are some excerpts from the link you provided: (did you read it?)
quote:
From your link:
". . .one of the most common misconceptions within Christianity is that God’s Name is Jehovah. (emphasis mine)
"When reading the Scriptures or referring to the Sacred Name (HaShem), the Jews would substitute the word Adonay, which means Lord."
"To indicate this substitution in the Masoretic Text, the Masoretes added the vowel points from the word Adonay to the Sacred Name"
"Later, some Christian translators mistakenly combined the vowels of Adonay with the consonants of YHWH producing the word YaHoWaH. When the Scriptures were translated into German during the Reformation, the word was transliterated into the German pronunciation, which pronounces Y as an English J and pronounces W as an English V or Jahovah. Then in the early 17th century when the Scriptures were being translated into English with the help of some of the German translations, the word was again transliterated as Jehovah, and this this unfortunate accident has carried over into many modern English translations." (emphasis mine)
"The term is now recognized by all proficient Bible scholars to be a late hybrid form, a translation error , that was never used by the Jews." (emphasis mine)
Does any of this sound familiar? Is this not exactly what I have repeatedly demonstrated for you? Doesn't the link that you yourself provided tell you that the pronunciation "Jehovah" is a "misconception" and is the result of "mistranslation" and an "unfortunate accident"
Yes, the article you linked to agrees exactly with what I have repeatedly demonstrated to you; the Name should be pronounced "Yahweh", not "Jehovah", not "slowly with an "o", but "Yahweh".
Now, since even you yourself have provided additional evidence that the pronunciation "Jehovah" is simply the result of "misunderstanding" and, indeed, is a "mistake", don't you think it's time to just admit it (remember, pride is a sin) and quit belaboring this ad nauseum?
Namaste'
Amlodhi
[This message has been edited by Amlodhi, 12-13-2003]

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Amlodhi
Inactive Member


Message 149 of 298 (72730)
12-13-2003 5:01 PM
Reply to: Message 146 by Buzsaw
12-13-2003 3:20 PM


Re: Reply to your simple question for Buzsaw
quote:
Originally posted by buzsaw
. . .the word adonai had nothing to do with the official pronunciation . . .
It is clear from the statements you make in your posts that you have refused to hear or simply have not understood a single word I've posted. I will waste no more energy on this. I have presented you with the facts, ignore them at your leisure.
P.S.
quote:
Originally posted by buzsaw:
You need to get over your own phobia about this.
Yet another inane statement. Since I have no theistic beliefs I can scarcely be phobic about this, n'est ce pas? You can call the old boy JoHo for all I care. (But be sure to say it real slooow.)
Amlodhi
[This message has been edited by Amlodhi, 12-13-2003]

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