AntiGod education should not be compulsary (even for non wealthy)

"Def. 4 is that of a scientific theory" Good then teach creation science in school.

"One view of faith being espoused by a government endangers all views of faith" So stop pushing it! Since you will not admit to pushing this dream tale of some little one celled creature being the Ceator, then at least we could also say, by the same token as your statement, "NO view of faith espoused by a school endangers all views of faith" In God we trust? here he is kids, now just wait till you see this little guy's commandments!

how is belief in God faith based? You have to believe it without 100% evidence! Either side can claim some, even a lot of evidence, but when you get down, you just gotta believe it.
As far as dictionary definituions, perhaps we should toss them out of school, as well, since you get sore at them not all being revised yet to give more glory to your wonder theory.
As far as turning nasty, as someone said. I see no need. I stated my opinion that it's got to be God or nothing, if it's mandatory. If newcomers, witches, or pagans, or ateists, or undecided joe citizen, can't have a system that reflects, not a religion (like evolution)or catholisism, etc. But an aknowledment and respect for a Christian God,-(In God we trust-one nation under God etc.)then make a godless education sysytem, but do not compel attendance. Otherwise, as it seems actually, all the wishing aside, the nation is doomed. The heart and soul and very God has been ripped out, and (regardless of still having to allow kids to parade outside pole praying)peoples hearts and wills are not with you. Peoples votes, and money is not with you. God is not with you, and can not win your battles, and protect you. And on it goes till you take your place in the ash heap of countries who rejected God, and were left to your demise. Nasty? no, pity- for the children held to ransom by the state godless system-and the country no longer able to seemingly do anything about it, except 'fiddle' while the last vestiges of their godly heritage are destroyed.{Fixed quote box - AM}[This message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 02-09-2004]

When you can match Dr. Frankenstein's work, we'll see if you can get the whole beast, and if it's a better beast than God made. Even if your great white hope of creating a cell ever happens, would you not still have some work to do? The old witches and gods used to turn people into half man half beast didn't they? Now they're called something else, and are working on things like mixing the genes of a goat and a spider, and all kinds of things! A tinkerer, a tailor, and if you are right, when you get real fancy a one cell maker-but God? No. Meanwhile, before your mad scientists manage to get every one implanted with some kind of chip to maybe control the free will out of us-we will have God-and freedom, no matter how god-like you think you are. We don't chose you for our God! You're fired! says you. Anyhow the little teacher only has so much power-you need to do pretty well what you are told in school. You can't teach anything that is at odds with the curriculum too much? So, those who force people to pay for the operation, and choose the things to include in schools have most of the power here. Your opinion is important, and what you revel in teaching is a concern. But if you want to get payed you basically teach what you are told. I have heard of some teachers who wished they could try to include God in the teachings a lot more. Just because something has some science to it does not mean it has to be taught. The Russians apparently were doing studies some years ago in the paranormal. Many feel there is esp, and such, and perhaps would like to scientifically study it. Does that mean elementary school children are not being taught science if the course isn't offered? Science is a big concept, and not all of it is appropriate! We need to measure, if we have some faith, which aspects of science we prefer. Yes, I don't want people creating big insect/animal crosses with gene tinkering for example, (if they could) for say war purposes, and forcing children to learn hoe to do it. Or, how to kill unborn children, and use their remains for 'scientific' purposes! It is more important to have a godly education, and learn right from wrong, and use what parts of knowledge accordingly that we need. Otherwise we get the package deal of the Garden, where poor Eve thought the tree of knowledge, as explained to her by the first evolutionist-good and evil- and death and misery! let's take the good, and shew away the evil, and give the kids a break.

Are you suggesting you can provide proof that it is pro Christ?

OK if your revelation is right-be careful-one poster here told me a revelation is a sure sign it's a religion! (revelatory)("Act of revealing;that which is revealed:")
I went to a catholic school, where they taught about Adam and Eve, and parables of the most influential Man who ever lived, does this mean that it was "fundamentalist"? Now I would say it was religious, reflecting a particular denomination, but I do not believe this was why seperation of church and state needed to be introduced-to protect us fron learning about God! But rather to protect us from the kind of things going on in Europe, that so many had tried to get away from. But when you start to let Pagans & co steal the whole show, and try to use things against even believing in God, I would think the balance was lost, and needs to be corrected. Not just in the U.S. but I think believers everywhere need to stop being afraid to demand the freedom to have God in their education of their children, and if it can't be through a public system, then so be it. Time to flush!

I think the evolution thing I outlined. And challenged someone to show how it isn't. Oldest book? Well, in the sense that God wrote it, and it covers things right up to the point where there is no such thing as PREhistoric! Dinosaurs, planets, you name it, man also! So, whether theres a parcment older than the first scripture writing He deliverd, is not a big issue for me. Like I said, if you know of one, share it. It really does not matter to me. So if you want to get hung up on it, that's your problem, besides, even if there was some pre flood writings of some kind, we don't know about them, so He simply made a copy of them, and included them in the latest delivery, so to speak! The fact that they go right to the beginning is what I was really trying to get at there.

Really? Can you fill me in? Now this I've heard. If God is God why couldn't He do it the way He said? It tells us how many days (morning and evening even, to keep people from getting any confusing ideas), tells us what was made on each day, including the sun! It tells us how many years Adam, and his decendants lived, and it tells us of the flood. Even Jesus talked about the flood Himself, so it's not an old testament only thing. If He is such an incompetent liar, then we can throw out the book. If that is untrue then there is no Heaven, or cross, or thousands of 100% accurate fulfilled prophesy. And no hope. Christians, of all men on earth, are as Paul said then, "most miserable". In other words it's all pointless. But it is not like that. Since the Garden, we needed to listen to the voice of the serpent, or God. There is always both. In this case it is very clear where evolution originates, like the serpent it pretends to offer knowledge, but is a most horrible of lies. (Keeps a lot of people from finding the truth) Thank goodness it can't keep you from from finding God! But there are millions of children being taught God didn't really make the earth. Kinda like Santa, a fairy tale. Instead of having a Friend for life close by, and eternity to look forward to, they have a dark world with little love, a lot of lies, and pain, and no hope. So is a wonder they turn to drugs, drink, anything, and in many cases hate the system that left them so abused? I think God is Love, and people need love! I don't like religion, myself, in the sense that religious people killed Jesus and cause so much war! To me religion is the last thing I want. But as far as getting to know Jesus, and the Bible, and His presence, protection, provision, salvation, etc. I think they need it. If they don't get it at home, if they lost their parents, or were ripped away from their parents by the state, then I'd like them to at least have a chance to learn about how we didn't just all climb out od a tree-and are just animals, in a world that just slopped itself together, may crash into the sun, and there is nothing more in or after this life.

Depends if I am forced to pay for it, deny my faith, and have my kids perform satanic rituals during the half time, and wear darwin tee shirts.

You must be an evilutionist, you have a lot of faith, and you're overly interested in men's rectoms!

then again maybe .000001 %, either way I can show so called evidence for a lot of things, not all important enough to make the case for stealing a child's faith. Guess you left something out. Apparently some people think we were created as well as the moon, and stars the same way, by ourselves. Think what you want, don't touch my kids with it. sounds good it's not a regular theory, or just a utterly godless one, or just an unproven one, but it'a "robust" that you see is a big part of the problem, not all things are good for us, or our children, just because it is knowledge! So dictionary in, bible out?

But it is, guess it was a feeble explanation. A pretty big omission! The reason for everything left out! And knavishly supplanted by something that is the laughing stock of the universe! You think you're fooling everyone trying to sound like it's even handed. fair, neutral! It is a concept that rules out the Savior! So that is not good for children! "Relating to a time anterior to written records" (websters) It's all in the record so there's nothing relative about it! Easy, He says so Himself! Who am I going to believe-you? ( Who seem to believe you evolved from low lifes!)

Actually, what it is is a flashback there, like a bird's eye view first, then you pan back & cover a closer shot. It's not complicated at all. The days in which things were created were chapter 1, and in 2 we go back over and cover some more detail, like the woman. As explained, not at all, very simple, and common misconception. sorry they didn't understand it very well.

It's anti God anti Christ, in that it tries to replace God's creation, with the creature creating itself, it leaves no room for the Savior, It says God is a liar, and it was designed to destroy faith in God. Not all knowledge is good, and kid's don't need to be brought up thinking there is no spiritual. Most of the world understands there is a spiritual world, even if it's just ghosts etc. And to the christians claiming to believe that we decended from common ancestors, (like flies), do you also not believe in any spititual? ("God is a Spirit..")? that there is no Creator...some thinking, Sherlock. your godless idea of science is nonscense, in that you don't want to drop your assumptions that you call evidence to mock God, and the same evidence and science that can be used to explain creation. You think you are, do you not, decended from flies, or sharing common ancestors with them? You think you should be allowed free reign with this on christian children? nice try, but I said not all so called knowledge is appropriate for children. Such telling them the flies were their ancestors as well as yours. How dare you tell them science says that God is a liar! Your religious embrace of your 'chosen parts of science'(and assumptions, guesses, combined into religious philosophy that destroy kid's faith) is at issue.

and also of evolution! heres a link to a muslim site for you ::: The COLLAPSE of DARWINISM ::: ! how much more anti god can you get if you acknowlede Him even! And then go on to call His writings a total lie! And then go on to assault children trying to use the veil of 'science'-chosing only those things that omit Him! Talk about the 'dark ages!' You think kids are like mushrooms to be fed bull, and kept in the dark. Your idea of fairness seems to be keeping all god's out as well as Jesus.