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crashfrog

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Message 43 of 297 (139044)
09-02-2004 12:34 AM

Reply to: Message 42 by kendemyer
09-02-2004 12:28 AM

I would also assert that Dan Barker and the Brights are not exactly indicative of mental health to in that promoting your high IQ or high mental intelligence for no real reason at all is not exactly indicate of mental health.

I would assert that antagonizing atheists, who as a result of apparently having no moral objection to killing you for no reason as well as being crazy to boot, is not indicative of mental health on your part.

If we atheists are as crazy as you say and as morally unconstrained as other suggest, maybe you'd better look the fuck out, huh?

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Message 49 of 297 (139054)
09-02-2004 12:50 AM

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09-02-2004 12:46 AM

You have offered no real evidence that atheists exist either.

1) I am an atheist.

2) I exist.

Ergo, atheists exist, at least one of them.

Surely some other atheist tried this already, right? I'm sure you had some cute, fallacious "dismissal". I don't care to look it up, I guess. I'm satisfied that at least one atheist exists.

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Message 52 of 297 (139060)
09-02-2004 12:58 AM

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09-02-2004 12:53 AM

You never proved to me that you are an atheist

Proof that I am an atheist:

1) I lack belief in gods of any kind.

Ergo, I am an atheist.

You have to show your testimony is unimpeachable.

No, actually, at this point you have to prove that I'm not. Since you're not privy to my personal beliefs, etc, I don't see how you can do that. Your challenge is without merit. I have proved that I am an atheist because you have no rebuttal.

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Message 54 of 297 (139062)
09-02-2004 1:01 AM

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09-02-2004 12:58 AM

That's your rebuttal to my argument? Sophistry? We can't know anything, so therefore, you can't know you're an atheist?

Ok, granted. Unfortunately, sophistry means you can't know any of your other conclusions in this thread, either.

It's actually you who's being inconsistent, offering sophistry to rebut my argument without realizing that sophistry rebuts all your arguments, too.

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Message 148 of 297 (139444)
09-03-2004 1:35 AM

Reply to: Message 60 by kendemyer
09-02-2004 3:04 PM

First, it is a time honored tradition in debate and in law that the burden of proof is upon the claimant.

And I have met that burden of proof; I have stated that I possess no belief in gods. Since atheism is the assertion that one has no belief in gods, that proves that I'm an atheist.

In the face of that evidence, you must now prove that you know more about what I believe than I do. You have not.

I would say that you, crashfrog provide a great piece of evidence for my assertion.

And I would say that my reaction is the reasonable outrage directed at you, who has the temerity to assert without proof that you know more about my beliefs than I do.

Ad hominem proves nothing, Ken.

Now I reasonably saw in the above comment an implied threat.

What threat? What do you think I can do to you? I don't even know you.

Paranoia is a sign of mental illness, Ken. Maybe you should get that checked out.

I rest my case.

So you concede, then, that I am an atheist?

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