Does the bible condemn homosexuality?

The denial of gay marriage in a court house is unconstitutional however a Church is well within it's boundries to refuse joining a gay couple in marriage being that it is not supported anywhere in the scriptures. Also no matter how much someone might try to deny this the Bible did have some influence in the making of laws.[This message has been edited by Xzen, 12-01-2003]

Deu 31:24 And it came to pass, when Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished,
Deu 31:25 That Moses commanded the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, saying,
Deu 31:26 Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.It was the writings of Moses that called for the stoneings of transgresorsCol 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Col 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.When Christ died the ordinances that called for the stoneing of individuals was done away with.Rom 14:13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.No one claiming to be a Chritian should persecute or judge anyone but should try and see them as who they could be in Christ.

The Bible only supports marriage between man and woman. No where could you show me that a man is married to a man in the Bible. Whats more is that sex outside of marriage is considered to be defilling one's self and the one you were in the act with. And on the second part I agree that it is not right that the Bible has an influence on the making of laws but it does.

Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Rom 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Rom 1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.Clearly God does not like Homosexuality neither man to man or woman to woman.[This message has been edited by Xzen, 12-01-2003][This message has been edited by Xzen, 12-01-2003]

No where in the context of the first chapter of Romans does it speak of temple prostitutes. The context clearly shows that Paul is speaking of immoral acts that were common in the roman society.

Not veary well but I'm learning. It seems to me that Rrhain's taking things out of context. Both Liberal and Conservative scholars agree that his Proof-text method is unacceptible.

The Book of Romans was written during the greko-roman era. In the verses I've already given from romans shows that Paul, who at the time was considered to be a Jew, openly rebuked the roman followers for practicing immoral sexual acts among which Homosexuality is included.

"aschemosune" translates to "a shameful act"[This message has been edited by Xzen, 12-02-2003][This message has been edited by Xzen, 12-02-2003]

I believe the name of the topic is "Does the Bible condemn homosexuality" which I think I've pretty much shown. However I will do my best to provide an extrabiblical source for you. The Jews refered to homosexuals as dogs.Deu 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.
Deu 23:18 Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a dog, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these are abomination unto the LORD thy God.This is another Biblical refrence but from the old Testament showing that homosexuals were looked down apon and called an abomination.[This message has been edited by Xzen, 12-02-2003]

Still no one has brought up any valid argument against the verses from Romans in which "aschemosune" translates to "a shameful act" and nothing to do with the female genitalia as was earlier stated. The name of this thread is "Does the bible condemn homosexuality." As the verses I've provided from Romans chapter one showes. The answer is YES.[This message has been edited by Xzen, 12-02-2003]

Deu 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.
Deu 23:18 Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a dog, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these are abomination unto the LORD thy God.Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Rev 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

1Co 6:8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren.
1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.Again here is another place where the bible condemns homosexuality. By the way slinging mud at me and calling me a homophobe would get you nowhere. I've had several homosexual friends that I got along great with. But the fact remains the bible does indeed condemn homosexuality.P.S.I wonder if someone who doesn't know anything about Greek will try and pick this one apart?[This message has been edited by Xzen, 12-02-2003]

So then those who commit negative practices have fallen from righteousness and their homosexuality is a punisment of the flesh? But wait there's more!Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.So then even though they are not condemned for homosexuality but they are condemned for their unrightiousness which begat their unnatural lusts. So in the end homosexuals are still condemned and are worhty of death.

I'm not preaching. The conclusion I provided was bassed on the evidence I provided. I am also willing to admit that from what I've presented homosexuality is not condemned however individuals that comit homosexual acts have been given over to their unnatural lusts and their homosexuality is a proof of that. So then according to what the Bible says Homosexuals and all others listed in those passages from Romans are worthy of death.This is just a long way of me admitting that I was wrong.

Homosexuality is an act of unrighteousnes and so should be stopped because it is a display of open rebellion against God. (I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm preaching but if you want to talk about theology thats just the way it is)On another note their are churches that are consistent in not just singling out homosexuals but anyone that would have been in that list. For instence if you were living with your girl friend anmd decided you wanted to be baptised you would either have to move out and stop having premarital sex or get married. The same would apply to homosexuals. They would have to stop their homosexual acts so that they could be baptised.[This message has been edited by Xzen, 12-03-2003]