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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: The Moral Law can't change. Come on Faith, the Bible is filled with examples of God changing moral laws and acting immorally.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
Only Christianity has a Savior from it.
all those other religions have ways to avoid hell (essentially: do what we tell you to do), christianity isn't unique in that regard.It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
What messenger? The message that Jesus brought was well known before he was ever thought of. It's a product of the social behaviors that humans have evolved.
Socialism wont work though without accepting the messenger. Phat writes:
On the contrary, it's your brand of Christianity that's bankrupt in regards to advancing humanity. You claim that "the Fall" makes it impossible for humanity to advance. Secular Humanism is bankrupt in regards to advancing humanity."If you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you...." -- Rudyard Kipling
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Phat Member Posts: 18348 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
The message that Jesus brought was well known before he was ever thought of. Wrong. Jesus was in the beginning. We will note your belief, however. Since you base everything you say on evidence, you assume that Jesus was simply another human. It will take Him Himself to change your mind. Assuming you even want it.
You claim that "the Fall" makes it impossible for humanity to advance. And you will claim that the evidence shows us advancing. How old are you...70? You may see your evidence refuted. Edited by Thugpreacha, : No reason given.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction . "~Thugpreacha You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
But according to you, His daddy is Him.
More correctly what His Daddy is gonna do to them... Phat writes:
If I refuse heroin, what am I doing "to" myself?
... which really ends up being what they do to themselves by refusing Him... Phat writes:
If the consequences are inevitable, God is not omnipotent. ... and what the inevitable consequences are."If you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you...." -- Rudyard Kipling
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
Wrong.
Jesus was in the beginning. Phat writes:
Based on the evidence, I conclude that Jesus didn't exist.
Since you base everything you say on evidence, you assume that Jesus was simply another human. Phat writes:
Don't be silly. Evidence would change my mind.
It will take Him Himself to change your mind. Phat writes:
It's a well-evidenced claim: Women have the right to vote. (Men have the right to vote, for that matter.) Black people have the right to vote. Black people have the right not to be owned by white people.
And you will claim that the evidence shows us advancing. Phat writes:
Evidence can not be refuted. An argument can be refuted, but only by evidence. You may see your evidence refuted."If you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you...." -- Rudyard Kipling
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9201 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
No one has ever been able to present any actual evidence of the existence of the Jesus Christ character.
All they present as evidence is stories no factual data. Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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... The Moral Law can't change. ... So we still stone people?
... such as the concept of Karma in estern religions. those religions also recognize a Hell. ... Buddhists, among others, believe in reincarnation, so if there is a hell it is being reborn in this world ... with Christians harassing them and insisting on their beliefs ... Enjoyby our ability to understand RebelAmericanZenDeist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
There is a Buddhist Hell as wlel as the hell of reincarnation, which is one form of punishment in those religions since they may come back as an animal or even an insect.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9201 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
There is a Buddhist Hell
What is it? How does it correlate with the christian hell? When you talk about the christian hell what are you talking about? Is it the hell of the bible or the one contrived by theologians and apologists?Can you describe this hell? Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Faith writes: Hell. Invent something that you need to be saved from, and then offer the cure. Scam 101.
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Actually FUD.
Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. Tell folk there is a Hell and then offer to save them from what you tell them exists. No need for it to exist as long as they are dumb enough to think it exists and that you really will save them from it. Brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Edited by jar, : there is no "f" in SAVE
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Asw I said, many religions have a Hell. Idiort.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
According to a picture I posted here some time back the Buddhist hell looks quite a bit like the Christian idea of hell, a bunch of demonic beings threatending a bunch of naked (clearly Asian by the way) people with pitchforks.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I'm unable to find the picture I had in mind but Google image has a bunch under "Buddhist Hell:"
Buddhist Hell - Google Search: Edited by Admin, : Fix URL rendering.
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