New Book: Kerry ‘Unfit for Command’

jar, I already gave you quotes of some of what TJ said, think you agree with works are evidence of faith, leaning this is why TJ said he was more of a materialists, not in line with all the doctrines of Jesus Christ(because he like you didn't believe the Word to be inerrant), likely cause of people like Gene Scott, challenging TJ materialistic interpretation of faith in his time, which is why he said he separated the gold from the dross. It was not that he didn't believe in Christ, like you believed more in line with fundementals(James faith without works is dead), and not just spiritalisms, so he didn't take the side of the Gene Scotts of his day, and we all can understand why, but this was addressing the complex issue of faith, that Jesus himself said the importance of works, etc... TJ only fault appears he was mistaken about the inerrantcy of the Word, and his materialistic interepretation of the Word. I'm not his judge in this respect, cause he believed in works and he believed in the Lord, but not in the inerrancy of the word, so hopefully he made it through the faith works controversy, and will be in heaven, like what a warrior for Christ, he believed even though he didn't take all the gospels epistles to be inerrant, etc...Doubting thomas needed to see, to believe, TJ believed even though he separated the gold from the dross, and well he sound a bit like you, cause he didn't take the bible gospels to be inerrant, however strange as it may seem, I take more literally, believing its all inerrant, the problem as I see it is that TJ was looking for the wisdom of the preaching, but because of the Jews rejecting the Word, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe, in this TJ believed, cause he didn't see the wisdom of preaching, but still believed, and this is kind of in line with the inerrantcy of the Word, it is based on faith, and without works faith is dead, meaning TJ believed in Works too, and in Christ, but didn't get into the meat of the Word, cause he didn't realize its inerrancy, so didn't like the epistles of Paul, which was Gods words to the gentile brethren, but he believed in Christ and not in Paul, which is the basis of salvation, but he did side with james in the issue of works, and that is quite interesting, etc...This message has been edited by whatever, 09-07-2004 12:28 AM

George Washington said that Congress was to protect the religion of Jesus Christ, and that the Virginia State Constitution is not the US Constitution. I agree though that the activist judges need to be held accountable by Congress, so its the will of the people and not the will of the few activist judges, cause is not this the basis of our freedoms, that the people rule, and not the power of the judiciary, etc...It is quite awesome that TJ rewrote the bible, though he really couldn't improve on the Word, cause its inerrant, but didn't I already agree that TJ didn't take the Word to be inerrant, I already supplied quotes that TJ gave himself that the charter of man was not used but the charters of God, in the rights of the people, and not the rights of the government to take these rights from the people because our rights are from the charter of God (the Bible), and that TJ himself said not to ever forget this, cause to forget this would bring judgement on America by God, actually he said the wrath of God, etc...P.S. George Bush actually recieved permission from the UN before invading Iraq, we just didn't go and invade Iraq, and the world is a safer place, now that North Korea, Iraq is no longer threatening America, it is quite interesting how you all want to show our soft side to these terrorists, and George wants to show terrorist nations should never take the US for granted, because if George is president the terrorist nations will think twice before attacking america, as was the reason Libyia gave up it nucleur program, etc...Mr. Kerry is simply another William Chamberlain, saying peace while the terrorists say, show us you soft side, and Kerry saying to the terrorist, if you attack us we will not attack without first getting permission from the United Nations, and see what the French, Iraq, Iran think is best approach to deal with your terrorists, etc...We all know the United Nations fled Iraq when being bombed by terrorists, however, they refuse to acknowledge Israels right to build a wall of separation to protect the Palestinians children from walking across the border to blow themselves up, showing unfair bias, the United Nations are hypocrites and Kerry will seek their advise, if we are attacked, showing he is not fit to command, but he always seeks the aid and comfort of the enemy cause he believes in globalism, and not patriotism, as you well know from the Vets who were responsible for bringing this all to light, etc...Though when the Mystery Babylon falls were to rejoice, and apparently this maybe sooner than I care think, cause the anti-christ needs for Babylon to fall so he can control all that is bought and sold, and it appears it will be the EU that will be responsible for the destruction of the Mystery Baylon, cause of jealousness, to fullfill prophecy, the will of God, and well you can not blame TJ cause he warned of the wrath if we not keep in mind that our rights are from the King of Kings, and it appears you all don't agree with TJ, and how close were to the wrath of God, I simply will vote for freedom, and GWB for 4 more years, so I can get a job, and have the freedom to Worship the King of Kings, and God, cause its my God given right, that TJ acknowledged within the US Constitutions bill of rights, etc...Some countries have not this freedom, and we all see the attack on the pledge, on gay marriages, on the ten commandments in court houses, that soon the right to gather in belief in the religion of Jesus Christ in homes will not be acceptable, cause it will be considered hateful cause of our belief that gay marriages is an abomination, truly the gays are quite blessed to live in america, where even the infidels are protected, but the freedom to speak that the gay lifestlye is an abomination is under attack, even Cheney sides with the Gay marriage, however, GWB realizes that the Church should never be attacked for their belief in the sanctity of marriage, and requesting congress to protect the religion of Jesus Christ, George Washington said that its Congress role to protect the religion of Jesus Christ, how prophetic that this still holds true to this day, etc...This message has been edited by whatever, 09-07-2004 12:33 PM

It doesn't matter, the people simply don't trust Kerry, think the swiftboat Vets, have brought GWB the percentages lead, in spite of the media supporting Kerry, its quite interesting, cause the stock markets rising(means the economy improving), the only issue left Kerry is his ability to lead, the military, and the Vets attest he is a traitor to the military and not mentally able to be trusted with command, These Vets is the reason Kerry will lose, cause the people simply don't trust someone that flips and flops, says he is a hero, then a war protester, then a hero, but not supported by the Vets, and General Franks testifying his opinion, as an independent voter that he supports GWB, Democratic senator Zell bashing Kerry senate record in relation to supporting the militay, Arnold suggesting Democrats are girlie men, all this postive testimonies has simply been sinking Kerrys ship, and we can thank God the republicans are not girlie men, and the American people polled agree, and give GWB the lead, the last heard over 52 percent support GWB, heard an interesting joke on Jay Leno, that its going so bad for Kerry that he promised if elected, he would tell the truth, so Kerry's ability to tell the truth is being made fun of, Kerry too me, simply burned his bridges, the Vets should support one of their own, but Kerry turned on the Vets, and because of Kerry flipping on them, these Vets will continue to bring GWB the victory, and there is likely nothing you all can do about it, cause Kerry believablity is questionable, his judgment is questionable for him to stress his questionable service record as his qualification to be commander and chief over those Vets that accuse him of treason, etc...The American people are smart enough to see its not in their best interest to elect Kerry to be commander and chief over our military, to become president of the United States, etc...Whats at stake is the Stock Market and American's retirement mutual funds, our basic freedoms, and the clear leadership that GWB has consistently gave us and ours, standing up against the global warming conspiracy that would of stifled our economy, the american people realize that Kerry would support these perverse global agendas (them and their agenda's, not Americans agenda's), penalizing industry by more stingent EPA standards, taxing small buisnesses to death and the only jobs remaining in america, to fund his social plans that will only create rubber stamp jobs, and increase your taxes, Remember that Kerry consistently votes for increases in taxes, GWB has actually done the opposite giving the american people more take home pay, lowering taxes, and will make this tax break permanent, by having less government, which is the opposite of kerrys plans of more government that can only be achieved by cutting intelligence spending(which Kerry voted for), cutting the military(kerry voted to not support our troops so he votes to cut military moneys when its needed), and raising your taxes(something Kerry believes in raising taxes because he consistently voted to increase middle income taxes), Democrats like Kerry want a free lunch, "your money" for those who do not like working(like how many girls in the past got pregnant cause it mean't more government money's), like Kerry who hardly ever shows up in the senate yet recieves senator's salary for time not present(we all would like a job we get paid for where we didn't need to show up), (interestingly John Kerry presently is recieving this money is breaking federal law), Why should Kerry not be thrown in jail with Martha Stewart, for they both broke federal law?, should Kerry challenge John O'Neil for libel, so he can be tried for treason, etc...Do you really want to vote for someone who willfully is breaking federal law while he campaigns (most of us like Martha Stewart get prosecuted when they break federal law), cause Kerry is a lawyer(should not he be held to a higher standard), cause he willfully knows hes breaking federal law (he married a rich woman, he doesn't need to break the laws he would be sworn to uphold if elected), truly Kerry is simply unfit to command, he doesn't tell the whole truth, willfully breaks federal laws, problems with his silver star (combat V), and his refusal to release his complete naval military and medical records, etc...This is about Kerry being proven unfit to command by the Swift boat Vets against Kerry, even a democratic senator testifying that Kerry a Democrat is not fit to command our military, and an independent General Franks being frank about Kerry, was unfit to command, though he said, he based it on what Kerry did after he was released from the military, but feeling so strong about it that he switched for this election to support GWB, for 4 more years.P.S. I personally don't feel Kerry is a coward, liken him more liken to the BENEDICT ARNOLD SYNDROME, putting self before country, etc...

Did you hear the people responsible for all the deaths at the twin towers were the environmentalists, its was something about the head engineer who built the twin towers requested a safe asphetos spray on the gridons, supporting the floors, be sprayed in the upper levels, cause if a fire took hold the towers would be suspetible to collapse, but the environmentalist won, the gridion supports were not sprayed, and the twin towers collapsed, so the question of the lives of those that died could of had been granted more than enough time to escape, if only the enviornmentalists would of supported safety, instead of politics, etc...P.S. Where do you think those responsible are hiding, but GWB did get Sadam, and likely is still pursuing all the men responsible for the twin tower bombing, the world is a safer place because GWB didn't back down, to rogue nations like Iraq, North Korea, going forward with star wars shield, to protect us from North Korea and other like rogue nations, etc... Do you really feel you can trust Iran if they have Nucleur Missles, GWB is not about to let our guard down, Kerry believes in Chamberlains philosophy(hitler was his friend), that the enemy is his friend, and indeed the enemy has honored Mr, Kerry in their war museum for his part in the propagada war for their Victory over the US, and China main newspaper has supported Kerry, as the candidate, likely cause of Kerry giving their military US hardened nucleur chip technology, so they can nuke america, and we can do nothing about it, so I guess they have their reasons for wanting Kerry at the helm, but the military Vets have spoken, do you have ears, to hear, or is your fingers in you ears, to believe anyone but GWB, perhaps its time you take your headphones off, what you should be saying is anyone but Kerry, etc..

Jar, I enjoyed your link, however, the terrorists conviently hit the floors above the 64th floor, and the towers did collapse, hear you that was a whole lot of fuel, but adding another log to the fire doesn't make the fire hotter, not sure if the temps were hot enough to overpower sprayed on asphestos insulation, meaning the people if they would of had another hour to escape, would of made a big difference, the environmentalists refusal to allow the spraying of asphestos was likely responsible for the people below the fire, not having enough time to escape, etc...P.S. Hopefully GWB will get his man, but he needs 4 more years, but the environmentalists are let off the hook, because of your belief the fire was much hotter, though leaning they put politics ahead of safety, knowing the engineer that built the towers said if a fire breaksout the towers would collapse, I personally think they would of collapsed but not before the people below the fire were all rescued, and I know you disagree, so I will agree to disagree, cause it was a whole lot of fuel, and I did enjoy your link, just don't feel more fuel means a hotter flame, perhaps though this is what they want us to believe, cause it fuels the fire to get terrorists, whereever they are hiding, etc...http://www.tms.org/...ournals/JOM/0112/Eagar/Eagar-0112.htmlTHE FIRE
The fire is the most misunderstood part of the WTC collapse. Even today, the media report (and many scientists believe) that the steel melted. It is argued that the jet fuel burns very hot, especially with so much fuel present. This is not true.Part of the problem is that people (including engineers) often confuse temperature and heat. While they are related, they are not the same. Thermodynamically, the heat contained in a material is related to the temperature through the heat capacity and the density (or mass). Temperature is defined as an intensive property, meaning that it does not vary with the quantity of material, while the heat is an extensive property, which does vary with the amount of material. One way to distinguish the two is to note that if a second log is added to the fireplace, the temperature does not double; it stays roughly the same, but the size of the fire or the length of time the fire burns, or a combination of the two, doubles. Thus, the fact that there were 90,000 L of jet fuel on a few floors of the WTC does not mean that this was an unusually hot fire. The temperature of the fire at the WTC was not unusual, and it was most definitely not capable of melting steel.Page not found - The Trial NetworkLevine’s company, Asbestospray, was familiar with the World Trade Center construction, but failed to get the contract for spraying insulation in the World Trade Center. Levine frequently would say that "if a fire breaks out above the 64th floor, that building will fall down." That appears to be what happened Tuesday, according to Richard Wilson, a risk expert and physics professor at Harvard University.The two hijacked airliners crashed into floors 96 to 103 of One World Trade Center and floors 87 to 93 of Two World Trade Center. Instead of the steel girders of the towers lasting up to four hours before melting, the steel frames of One World Trade Center lasted only one hour and forty minutes, while the steel frames of Two World Trade Center lasted just 56 minutes before collapsing.

Crash/Patriot0717, It only makes the fire hotter if your adding hardwood, to a softwood fire, common sense is it not, I think the environmentalists should shoulder part of the responsiblity for the deaths of us and ours, like they really don't care much for the environment, pesticide/herbicide spraying of public schools(when they know its harmful by absorbtion), MTBE in gasoline polluting well waters, but we all know the evil's of environmentalists, that they care only about power to prevent us and ours, than to protect us and ours, but this is really a bit off topic, etc...P.S. Kerry recieves pay for services not rendered in the senate, not like GWB who recieved a salary for services rendered, earned points for extra duty, and was honorably discharged, etc...GWB has released all known documents as promised, Kerry simply refuses, its not hard to understand, Kerry is the one unfit to command, etc...CNN.com - White House releases Bush's military payroll records - Feb. 11, 2004"These documents make it very clear that the president of the United States fulfilled his duties," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said. "When you serve, you are paid for that service, and these documents outline the day he was paid.""We were not aware that this information existed, during the campaign, on the payroll records," said McClellan, who said the personnel center sent the information voluntarily.However, McClellan said, "he was paid for the days he served in the Air National Guard. That's why I said that these records clearly document that the president fulfilled his duties.""I think there are some that we are now seeing are not interested in the facts," McClellan said. "What they are interested in is trying to twist the facts for partisan political advantage in an election year, and that's unfortunate."The White House also released previously seen records of Bush's "point summaries" from the Texas Air National Guard. And White House officials released a letter from former Texas Air National Guard Personnel Director Albert Lloyd, stating the president had the required number of "points" for the year in question.The records indicate Bush received points toward service in October and November 1972 and in January, April and May 1973, and that he drilled extensively in June and July of that year.National Guard members earn points by attending regular assemblies, training and correspondence courses and being a member in good standing, according to the Army National Guard Web site.Bush left the service in October 1973 to attend Harvard Business School, and was honorably discharged.This message has been edited by whatever, 09-08-2004 10:25 AMThis message has been edited by whatever, 09-08-2004 10:32 AM

Crash, Its not like the Senate where they pay someone for not being present, Nice try though, the fact show GWB is the more honorable man, etc...P.S. Your talking about the volume of air heated, not the actual temperature of the fire, etc...This message has been edited by whatever, 09-08-2004 10:30 AM

Patriot0717, I agree the environment is important, but the environmentalists care not for the environment, if they did care, they would of banned pesticide spraying on the schools, they know its absorbed through the skin, yet it continues, etc...The towers stood for too long after the explosion, to support your premise that asphestos if it would of been sprayed wouldn't of delayed its collapse, most of the people died because they didn't have the time needed for escape, etc...Truly the environmentalists should of fessed up(but they never do), but likely in this case simply supported the flame was hotter, so to avoid liability, the reason California has such problems is those environmental laws, that are not preventing the pollution of the earth, but simply relocating pollution to other parts of the planet, etc...P.S. I'm all for alternative energies that are affordable to the masses, but it will never happen because Kerry needs to increase the tax on gasoline for his social agendas, using the environment as a front, to tax you more, etc...Personally, we should simply split the water molecule on demand(the link I provided earlier in either this thread of the GWB thread, using harmonics between electrodes as the patent suggests 250 khz, to catalze the rate of conversion rate between harmonic electrodes, so it could generate enough hydrogen on demand (throttle response or as the patent suggested 4 volt swing) to run our cars(it could be made safe, cause it would only be making hydrogen on demand(not like the car companies plans to have hydrogen compressed into tanks, which too me would be extremely less safe, likely for this to be a go, they would have to coat the heads with ceramics, stainless steel valves, and exhaust, but will likely never happen cause they need the tax on gas to run the economy, etc...The patent was quite interesting how this could be used to heat the home too,but because the flame is hotter, it would have to be designed with ceramics for heating the home, but well I'm not an engineer and well it sounds worth pursuing(because it would be only the price of water, and not the price of oil, likely never will happen because of the anti-christs need to take away our rights to impliment his system, to be dependent, and not independent, to his system in the perhaps not to distant future, the threat is globalism, and they are using the environment to press their agenda's forward, when they likely already know of the sciences of splitting the water molecule, but like the environmentalists, they too do not really care about the environment, but only about globalisms. Leaning this is why you see only fuel cells moving the hydrogen ion to power cars, rather than producing hydrogen gas on demand to power the combustion engine, gasoline is quite explosive too, and hydrogen combustion seems the more practical approach to the energy problem, but well its likely more complex(non-explosive magnetic level sensors to maintain water level without explosions, safety shutoff low level sensors, but with our technology simply can not take it for granted that it can not be done, etc...But I drive a Geo Metro that gets 57 mpg, so I'm doing my part, etc...This message has been edited by whatever, 09-08-2004 12:01 PMThis message has been edited by whatever, 09-08-2004 01:07 PM

Razd, You shouldn't be concerned cause GWB got paid for the time he made up in the months preceeding his honorable discharge, you forget GWB signed up for inactive reserve, but never was called up cause the plane was retired early, 2 to 3 years after his honorable discharge, one of the reasons he was allowed an early discharge, was that the plane was to be retired early, but GWB still signed up for inactive reserve in case they needed him to fly the plane that was to be discontinued, and was approximately 3 years later, so he could of been called up as inactive reserves today have been called upon to serve in Iraq, etc...P.S. You should at least hold Kerry to the standard you looking at GWB, but we all know why Kerry refuses to release his complete medical military records, and its not the same as GWB believing they were not available because of protocal was suppose to have destroy those records after 24 months, but all supports he made up time for being allowed to be a part of the Senate Campaign and his ability to have an honorable discharge early, cause they allowed him to make up time missed. Its interesting that his plane was retired within a couple of years, etc... Do you think Kerry should be forced to go to active duty in Iraq if its proven by Judicial Watch suit to the navy, that he never earned some of those purple hearts, etc...You really need to realize your candidate is not being upfront, still refusing to back with facts, what he says, its called putting foot in mouth and the Vets basically have caught Kerry with foot in mouth disease, and until Kerry releases his complete naval military medical records all the people see is Kerry foot in mouth, which means what KERRY says isn't what hes done, saying he voted for the middle class, when in truth hes voted to increase middle class taxes, Kerry has proven that he is not patriotic but self serving, aiding not our own, which is why the Vets are up in arms against not Bush but the Man who is hiding behind a mask, thats been unmasked by the Swift Vets, holding Kerry to a higher standard, cause they have a beef with what Kerry did, and what he says, to them Kerry is a traitor, and GWB is not, etc...Kerry smeared the Vets but GWB after his honorable discharge put himself in the inactive reserve, so he could of been called back into the Service, to fly that plane, that was retired early(approximately 2 to 3 years after he was discharged), so there was no need to call the inactive reserve to active duty, so GWB wasn't called back to active duty. Its quite simple GWB was willing to fly the plane, if our Country needed him, which is why he signed up for inactive reserve(because the plane wasn't going to be retired for several years), but Kerry when he left the military attacked our own, to self serve a political career, the fact speak out in favor of GWB for 4 more years, etc...This message has been edited by whatever, 09-08-2004 05:09 PM

Razd, You still don't get it, if your applying for a job, references of those that worked alongside is apart of the resume, ever hear of references(probably not), 200 + Vets say don't hire Kerry for the job of commander an chief, that he's not fit to command, we all know how mediocore his Senate record was, and is, where he's recieving a salary for time not present, violating Federal law, so many problems with Kerrys character, to lead, and why he burns all his bridges, the Vets should of supported one of their own, you don't need a bridge burner in the office of president, you need someone like GWB that has not burned his bridges, rather than smearing the Vets character, as Kerry was guilty of doing, no wonder the Vets are outraged at Kerry saying he is one of them, the Vets say he is not to be trusted, they should know, cause they served with the man, etc...P.S. Its anyone but Kerry, if you don't like GWB then vote for Nader, but the Vets message is Mr. Kerry is not to be trusted, read the Oliver North letter to Mr. Kerry, read the Swiftboat Vets letter to Kerry, read about Kerry refusing to release his complete military records, truly its anyone but Kerry, etc...Page not found - Plaza | Fretag i StockholmPage not found - Plaza | Fretag i StockholmOliver Norths letter to John Kerry.http://www.townhall.com/.../ollienorth/printon20040827.shtmlSwiftVets letter to John KerrySwift Vets and POWs for Truth - Swift Veterans Letter to John KerryKerry reneges on providing a complete naval military and naval records.http://www.newsmax.com/...es/articles/2004/4/20/171506.shtmlThis message has been edited by whatever, 09-08-2004 05:44 PMThis message has been edited by whatever, 09-08-2004 09:32 PMThis message has been edited by whatever, 09-08-2004 10:00 PM

Razd, We can now only hope that Mr. Kerry will now release all his records, to be fair to GWB, but given Kerrys past, I suspect this is not something he will do, as in Oliver Norths letter to Kerry, Kerrys beef is not with GWB or Bush's Record, but with his betrayal of the 2.5 million Vets serving this country.P.S. The QuickBoat Vets have declared that My. Kerry is not to be trusted, and we all know what the bible says about men like Mr. Kerry, that a double minded man is unstable in all his ways, KJV quote, and how aptly this fits Mr. Kerry, its that Kerry is (double minded)says one thing & vote for the other side, etc..., Kerry's double talk, has given him the chant flip flop, is he for or against the war, is he for or against abortion, is he for or against gay marriage, is he for or against taxing the middle class, is he a hero or a traitor, says he will release all his medical records then reneges, confirming the Vets testimony that Kerry is not to be trusted with what he says, cause he turned on them, they were there, and they simply requested Mr. Kerry release his complete military records, and he simply refuses, GWB released his records but Kerry flipped said he would release all his records, then reneged, John O'Neil's Book: Kerry Unfit to Command, the topic was Kerry, is he fit to command, its not anyone but Bush, both were discharged honorably, by their superiors, GWB was available to be called into active service, but the inactive reserves were not called up, Kerry on the other hand made war with our military, lying that he was in Cambodia on Christmas Eve, it was in the Oliver North letter, telling Kerry we were there, and your a liar, etc...There is a reason likely why the Vets wants his complete records, and Kerry likely knows too, or else he'd release his complete naval military, medical records, etc... We want to know too, Mr. Kerry needs to release his complete records, its the right thing to do, etc...This message has been edited by whatever, 09-08-2004 10:22 PMThis message has been edited by whatever, 09-08-2004 10:51 PM

Razd, Heard on television news today that the Denver reserve knew where GWB was and that GWB was willing to serve if the inactive reserves were called upon(seems he did become a paper pusher as did Kerry), however, you must remember that Kerry after discharged from the military, became a war protester calling our own Vets butchers, now who do you really feel is better qualified to lead our military, its obvious that Kerry by lying about the War, is simply unfit for command, etc..P.S. Did you read the Oliver North letter to Kerry, if you did, how can you in good faith vote for the man, to lead those that believe Kerry is a traitor, to our own military, etc...General Franks never contested his record in Vietnam, but his record after the military, as to why he is not fit to command, etc...razd, I applaud however your zeal, your passion, however misguided it maybe, etc...This message has been edited by whatever, 09-08-2004 10:44 PM