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Message 1 of 612 (133092)
08-12-2004 2:54 AM


Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry
by John E. O'Neill, Jerome R. Corsi
Amazon.com
Editorial Reviews
From the Publisher
Find out why John Kerry is Unfit for Command as told by the men who served with him
Unfit for Command reveals a John Kerry you don't know-the true John Kerry that his political image-makers are trying to hide. But the veterans who served with him know better, and in Unfit for Command, they tell their story, including:
* How all three of John Kerry's Purple Hearts were for minor injuries, easily treated with band-aids, not requiring a single hour of hospitalization
**** How captured Americans were tortured in North Vietnamese prisons for not endorsing John Kerry's false testimony-before the United States Senate-about alleged American war crimes *****
How John Kerry carried a typewriter and an 8-mm home movie camera with him to Vietnam so he could record his own exaggerated version of his war exploits and film staged reenactments of his "combat actions" to advance his political career
***** Why John Kerry's photograph hangs in a place of honor in the Vietnamese communist "War Remnants Museum" in Saigon *****
Want to know the real John Kerry? Read Unfit for Command-and prepare to be shocked.
From the Inside Flap
John Kerry, War Hero? Guess again.
John O'Neill was the naval officer who took over John Kerry's swift boat in the muddy waters of Vietnam. What he learned convinced him-and convinced the majority of veterans who served directly with Kerry-that John Kerry was and is unfit for command at the lowliest rank in the Navy, let alone as commander in chief of the United States.
In this stunning new book, John O'Neill and his coauthor Dr. Jerome Corsi (an expert on the anti-Vietnam War movement) have... read more

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Message 3 of 612 (133097)
08-12-2004 3:30 AM
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Kerry's honored in the Vietnamese Communist War Museum in Saigon
Asgara, I guess truth in respect to Kerry is scary, if it was not the truth, would not Kerry of sued those veterans for libel, etc...
***** Why John Kerry's photograph hangs in a place of honor in the Vietnamese communist "War Remnants Museum" in Saigon *****
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Message 5 of 612 (133112)
08-12-2004 4:42 AM
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Re: Kerry's honored in the Vietnamese Communist War Museum in Saigon
Asgara, I heard that the Kerry Political machine is trying to prevent these Veteran personal testimony of Kerry, from airing on national television, threatening to sue the television stations from airing without cause, but not threatening to sue these Veterans, likely because (Kerry's Accusers)are telling the truth, and are not a part of the Bush team, so they are not bound by campaign law, (but are Veterans) so Kerry's political team of lawyers thus far, has not been able to quiet his accusers, because they actually earned their purple hearts, etc...
P.S. The testimony of the people that served with Kerry is being aired on national television, and documented in the book. The book has just become available, and presently the number one best seller at amazon.com. ***Kerry Unfit for Command*** When the picture of Kerry was taken in the Saigon War Memorial, Kerry was approximately 27 years old, its had nothing to do with Communist propaganda, cause the Vietnam vets never admitted to abuses that Kerry made up before the Senate, in fact Kerry eventually admitted he never personally saw any abuses, that he said were rampant, truly our Kerry is one of Saigons communists greatest honored hero's, in respect to the Vietnam War, etc... It is interesting Kerry testimony of these abuses he said was rampant, was not first hand, but the Vietnam Vets testimony of Kerry is first hand, a personal testimony of John Kerry, etc... John Oneil the author of the book, said that Kerry ran from the battle scene, that after the other boats rescued the people from the boat that got blown up by the mine, that it was only after no gunshots from the enemy, that Kerry then returned, and helped the person that fell overboard when Kerry fled the scene, fell overboard from Kerry's boat, when Kerry returned he rescued the person that fell overboard, and then John Oneil (author of the book) then took over piloting John Kerry's boat, etc...
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Message 10 of 612 (133216)
08-12-2004 12:38 PM
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Re: Kerry's honored in the Vietnamese Communist War Museum in Saigon
It took a Vietnam Vet to get Kerry to admit he never actually saw any Atrocities that he said was rampant, the Vets that Served with Kerry attest they never saw these atrocities, the issue is a matter of was Kerry being truthful before the Senate, or engaging in double talk, not in how eloguent he is able to speak, but whatever, the truth is out, etc...
P.S. Kerry apparently is a war hero, just not an American War hero, the reason the book is the number one book being bought, is because people want to know more about the man running to be commander and chief, and if he is fit for command, etc...
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08-12-2004 12:46 PM
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Re: Kerry's honored in the Vietnamese Communist War Museum in Saigon
Charles Knight, I think your a bit off topic, this is about John Kerry lying about his medals, and before the Senate, etc...

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Message 26 of 612 (133374)
08-12-2004 7:26 PM


Its more than just the boat incident, whose side was John Kerry actually on, lying to the Senate, picture of Kerry with the Communists leaders in their Saigon War museum, likely the book will continue to be a best seller, the people want to know, if John Kerry is fit for command, the reason the Vets have it in for Kerry is his lying about all the abuses he never saw personally, with a straight face before the Senate, that they (Vet's) knew he never saw personally, like what the heck was he doing testifying before the Senate, it was not like he actually saw any abuses, and the abuses these Vets recieved when returning to America, while John Kerry being honored by the Communist in Saigon, etc...
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Message 28 of 612 (133400)
08-12-2004 9:22 PM
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JOHN O'NEILL Interviewed by CBN
Asgara, I found John O'Neil views documented on line in an interview about what really happened in respect to the boat incident, John says its not about Kerry being a democrat, but about Kerry's lies about his record, etc...
CBN.com - The Christian Broadcasting Network
INTERVIEW
Unfit For Command: Vietnam Vet Recalls Serving with John Kerry
August 12, 2004
CBN.com — The inflammatory John Kerry book, "Unfit for Command," by Swift Boat vet John O'Neill, is racing up the best-seller charts. Kerry supporters are accusing O'Neill and other Swift Boat veterans of being politically motivated. But the vets say John Kerry's lies about his record have driven them to act. Pat Robertson recently spoke with the controversial author about why he feels Kerry is unfit to be elected the future president of the United States.
PAT ROBERTSON: John, I want to ask you something about a picture that is hung in a museum in Saigon depicting foreign activists who contributed to the Communist victory over America. Is Kerry's picture in that exhibit?
JOHN O'NEILL: Amazingly, Pat, he was no hero in our unit. But he was a big hero to the North Vietnamese in their war museum in Saigon, now Ho Chi Minh City. They have a hall - it is like a Cooperstown [Cooperstown, New York - site of the National Baseball Hall of Fame] of bad guys. They have el Fatah and Fidel Castro, Mao Tse Tung, and right in the middle of it is a shrine to John Kerry. A guy from our unit discovered that when he was in Saigon on Memorial Day. Copies of those pictures can be obtained right in the book "Unfit for Command."
ROBERTSON: The American people don't seem to know that. What, is there blindness now?
O'NEILL: It appears to me that there is such a mass rush among the major media to try to elect John Kerry as president of the United States, that they no longer care about the truth. To us, we have people of all different kinds in our organization, and most of the people that served with John Kerry were not Republicans or Democrats. But we care a lot about the truth, because it is our unit and it's the life story of the people who lived and died with us. We know that he lied about that unit. He exaggerated wildly his own short experience in Vietnam.
ROBERTSON: There is a man named (Jim) Rassman who wrote an article in the Wall Street Journal a couple of days ago, and he apparently was pulled out of the river by Kerry. Kerry got a Bronze Star for this action. He said there was fire coming from both sides of the river, that Kerry had been wounded, and an explosion blew up the boat, and Rassman went in the water. He said all of the boats left except Kerry's, and Kerry stayed to pick him up. What is your take on that story?
O'NEILL: It's turned the world turned upside down. What actually happened on that morning, March 13th, according to the officers of every other boat in the incident and many of the crewmen, is that the number three boat, the boat that Kerry was not on, was blown out of the water by a large mine. All of the boats closed on the number three boat, as we always would. We would stand and fight to the end. There was one exception to that. John Kerry fled the scene. In fleeing the scene, Rassman fell off of Kerry's boat. The other boats closed on the number three boat, saved the people who were knocked off of the boat in the water, saved the boat. And finally when it was evident that there was going to be no fire, Kerry finally returned and did the decent thing, and plucked Rassman out of the water, shortly before another boat did so, within 10 or 15 yards of another boat. But the story shown to the Democratic Convention that portrayed our guys as fleeing is just a calculated lie. It makes no sense because the number three boat that they all closed on had no engines; it couldn't flee, Pat. It just couldn't happen.
ROBERTSON: So you are saying that Kerry gunned his boat, and in that Rassman fell over the side? Is that what you say happened?
O'NEILL: I am saying exactly that. Rassman fell off of Kerry's boat. Kerry's boat fled the scene. It was the only boat to flee the scene. All of the other guys, as we always did, stood to fight, to save the survivors of the number three boat. There was no fire, as it turned out. They saved the survivors, and after it became evident there was no fire, Kerry returned. His story is the world turned upside down, according to the people involved in that incident.
ROBERTSON: He said on the floor of the United States Senate that he had spent Christmas in Cambodia, and this was in 1968. And he said he was amazed that President Nixon, who was not in office at that time, was claiming we were not in Cambodia, and he was taking fire from the Viet Cong and Khmer Rouge and other groups. Was any of that true?
O'NEILL: It is a total lie, Pat. This is one of his war crimes story. He made up the story that the U.S. Government had secretly ordered him into Cambodia on Christmas Eve, and Christmas Day of 1968 he sat there desolate, wondering how they could illegally do this, listening to President Nixon, who as it turns out, did not become president for a long time. Every person that I know of - Hundreds of people - will say that is a complete and total lie. It is a typical Kerry lie, because it is made up to libel up the chain of the command and portraying Kerry as sort of an involuntary guy engaged in war crimes. And if I am not telling you the truth, if John Kerry was in Cambodia in December 24th and 25th, sue me today, Pat. John Kerry, sue me today, because once again, it is a complete lie about our unit.
ROBERTSON: Where was he?
O'NEILL: He was down at SaDec (SaDec Province, in the Mekong Delta, Vietnam), Pat. In his biography entitled "Tour of Duty," all of a sudden, instead of being in Cambodia on December the 25th and 25th - as he had said more than 50 times in articles, and on the floor of the Senate - all of a sudden in his biography "Tour of Duty," he is 55 miles away, at a base, safely ensconsed in a base, writing a letter about sugar plums dancing in his head.
ROBERTSON: What do you think about the other people who are veterans? It seemed like the number of veterans who are going for him, his own men who were on that boat, seem to swear by him. Has he somehow twisted their minds on that?
O'NEILL: They were, first of all, out of all the veterans in our unit, a very small number. Seven or eight people who served directly with him, out of about 10. And then, another small number of other people supported him from our unit. But there are 250-plus that signed the letter that can be found on SwiftVets.com | The Real Story on John Kerry's Military Service. A list of all their names, running from vice-admiral down to seaman, are contained in my book "Unfit for Command." The truth is, there are a very small number of people who support him. You'll find that some of those people were with him for as short a period of time as two days. The officers who served with him, 25 of them, two are dead. Out of the 23 living survivors who served with John Kerry day after day, operation after operation, 17 of them have condemned him. Seventeen of them indicated he was unfit to be the president of the United States. That's the truth, Pat.
ROBERTSON: You are being attacked for this book, I'm sure. I think there is a complaint before the FEC (Federal Election Commission) that this book was somehow funded contrary to the Campaign Finance Law. What are you going to do about that?
O'NEILL: They have so far had two large law firms send letters to 20 stations threatening suit if they carry our ad. Three different Kerry-related organizations filed complaints with the Federal Election Commission. None of that is going to silence us, Pat. We have 60 people who received the Purple Heart in Vietnam and nine who received the Silver Star. We bought that with blood and service in Vietnam, and when affairs of our unit are being discussed, it is integral to the First Amendment and integral to the ability of people to gain the truth, that we have the right to speak. One thing they can't do yet, Pat, is burn a book. They won't be able to burn this book.
ROBERTSON: It is looks like it is burning the records from amazon.com, and it was just released yesterday. It just came out, and ladies and gentlemen, you really ought to read this. "Unfit for Command." It is an explosive book, and it has pictures in here of all of the pictures we are talking about, including that war museum there in Saigon. You ought to find it interesting. And give it to your friends. John, thank you for so much for being with us today.
O'NEILL: One thing I'd point out is, any proceeds from my interest in the book are going to military-related charities. I am not making a dime off of the book.
ROBERTSON: Fantastic. John O'Neill, ladies and gentlemen, the author of "Unfit for Command." It is dynamite.

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Message 31 of 612 (133439)
08-12-2004 11:07 PM
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Re: JOHN O'NEILL Interviewed by CBN
Asgara, I went to the book store to purchase the book so to answer your question, however, won't arrive until the 15th of this month. So all I can say for now, is the author of the book John O'Neil made an interesting quote, that out of 25 officers that served with John Kerry, 2 died, and out of the 23 remaining, 17 officers, condemned Kerry.
P.S. Whats interesting is this betrayal by Kerry, both democrats and republicans officers condemned John Kerry. Its not about politics, Kerry betrayed his office, according to his peers, in service, he's not fit for command, etc...

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Message 33 of 612 (133441)
08-12-2004 11:25 PM
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Crashfrog, This link says Nixon was the Thirty-Seventh President
1969-1974, probably didn't get sworn in until 1969, though agree he was elected in 1968, etc...
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Message 37 of 612 (133593)
08-13-2004 1:45 PM
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schrafinator, Kerry's Picture is in a place of honor in respect to their victory over the United States, however, whats interesting is a book written by Kerry's peers, that while we all now understand why Kerry is held in honor by the Communists in their museum, but what is interestingly he is not held in honor by his peers, of the surviving peer officers that served with Kerry 17 of them say that Kerry didn't stand behind his own, and twisted the truth. I suspect the one thing both the Vets and the North Vietnamese shared was awe, and not respect. Suspect if a North Vietnamese would of spouted propaganda against their cause they wouldn't of been allowed to continue in this act of treason against their own(Only in America). Either your for your country, or your against. This is a problem with the democratic party, so Kerry fits right in with their agenda, to them its not about our soveignty, but the world community. Were all seeing the fruit of clintonomics, the price of crude over 45 dollars per barrel, cause of the industries clinton blessed to leave this country without penalties are now drawing excessively from the world middle east oil supply, you can not tell these foriegn industries they can not have access to middle east oil, its supply and demand, etc...
What is Kerrys voting record in respect to drilling for our own oil, etc... I like Edward in this particular article cause he is for drilling for Alaskan oil, talk about opposites running on the same ticket, I don't like the supply and demand senerio's that John Kerry played a main role in filibustering, so that always cause prices to rise, off supply and demand in the world market.
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"How sweet it is," Kerry told reporters after the April 2002 vote to sustain the filibuster against drilling.
Kerry is the Senator that is responsible for setting us up for the high price of crude, so were dependent on foriegn oil, we need to be drilling for oil in our own country, etc...You don't see Kerry driving a hybrid, leading by example, etc...
P.S. I'd like to see that Picture of Rumsfield in the Saigon Museum, I could understand Nixons, given he was the President of the United States.

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Message 42 of 612 (133896)
08-14-2004 6:44 PM
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crashfrog, Good point that one of the big issues was if he actually was in Cambodia, the whole basis of his testifying before the Senate was that he accused the President of the United States of lying, when as it turns out John Kerry was not in Cambodia, etc...
P.S. It is interesting that John Kerry said it was seared in his brain(apparently more vivid than his diary), this almost sounds like John Kerry was a victim of mind control, if so then he was not lying, that its possible that this memory was seared into his brain, he couldn't be in two places at the same moment in time, etc...It is interesting that Kerry apparently corrected the record he is not sure he was actually in Cambodia at the time in question, quite a contradiction to the memory seared within him, etc...
Kathleen Parker: Biography and Latest Articles
"I remember what it was like to be shot at by Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the president of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia," he told his fellow senators. "I have that memory which is seared - seared - in me."
Well, as it turns out, Kerry wasn't in Cambodia (at least not then), and the president wasn't lying (at least not then)/ Depending on whom you believe, Kerry was in a boat either five miles away or 50. In Douglas Brinkley's biography, "Tour of Duty," based in part on Kerry's diary, Kerry was at Sa Dec, 58 miles from Cambodia.
A few days ago, Kerry campaign adviser Jeh Johnson tried to clarify for Fox News, "... I believe he (Kerry) has corrected the record to say it was some place near Cambodia. He is not certain whether it was in Cambodia, but he is certain there was some point subsequent to that that he was in Cambodia."

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Message 44 of 612 (133956)
08-14-2004 10:49 PM
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Kerry's own press man said Kerry admits he wasn't in Cambodia on the days in question, I don't know how to prove it more conclusively, perhaps a video of the men who actually served with John Kerry.
http://humaneventsonline.com.edgesuite.net/...video_wmv.html
Here is the link to recieve for free the first chapter of John O'Neils best seller Kerry Unfit for Command. Its also interesting that the money from any profits of the book will go to military charities, its not about someone profiting by writting a book, etc...
http://humaneventsonline.com.edgesuite.net/offer.html
An interesting article about the laws regarding treason and asking the question?
Why is John Kerry running for President and not in jail?
by JusticeTalion
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-bloggers/1191146/posts

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Message 46 of 612 (134052)
08-15-2004 11:09 AM
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It's kind of interesting cause I don't hate John Kerry, the issue, is John Kerry the hypocrite that the evidence suggest. You can not but feel for the American people that will now be paying excessively for heating costs, this winter because John Kerry filibustered the drilling of oil in Alaska, etc...The drilling of oil in Alaska wouldn't of supplied all our oil needs, but if we drilled off shore florida, it would of been a buffer in respect to the price of crude, but we all know how its not about our needs but mother earths needs in Kerrys eyes, heard Kerry was even offended by wind turbines being an eye sore, etc...
P.S. Have you read the free chapter of the book from the link I provided. Its all about the evidence that Kerry is Unfit for Command, apparently Kerry went around command to recieve his purple hearts, its something that should be explored how he recieve them, its all suggestive that Kerry pulled some strings to get out of Vietnam, but his commanding officer refused to file for his purple heart, so what strings did Kerry pull to go over his commanding officer to get those purple hearts.

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Message 52 of 612 (134097)
08-15-2004 3:24 PM
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Syamsu, Did you read the free chapter of the book on the link provided, if you did, how can you say Kerry was being forthright in obtaining the purple heart.

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Message 53 of 612 (134098)
08-15-2004 3:27 PM
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crashfrog, If you actually read the free chapter of the book you wouldn't of questioned the Cambodia border, etc...

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