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Topic: New Book: Kerry ‘Unfit for Command’
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nator
Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: 12-09-2001
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Message 7 of 612 (133151)
08-12-2004 9:45 AM
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Reply to: Message 6 by CK
08-12-2004 6:16 AM
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Re: Kerry's honored in the Vietnamese Communist War Museum in Saigon
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The eloquent Kerry wiped the floor with O’Neill and those closest to the Republican O’Neill say he never forgave Kerry for embarrassing him on national TV.
Huh, isn't that interesting? Whatever, you might want to be a bit less gullible WRT your political reading material.
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Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: 12-09-2001
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Message 18 of 612 (133322)
08-12-2004 4:22 PM
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Reply to: Message 14 by paisano
08-12-2004 12:52 PM
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Well, Bush was suspended for not showing up for a physical to maintain his status as a pilot. I wonder if this was the time when he was doing cocaine, so he didn't want to take the drug test? This message has been edited by schrafinator, 08-12-2004 03:23 PM
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Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: 12-09-2001
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Excellent, Opus, excellent.
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Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: 12-09-2001
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picture of Kerry with the Communists leaders in their Saigon War museum,
There's also picutes of President Nixon with communist leaders. There's also that great video of a beaming Donald Rumsfeld shaking Saddam Hussein's hand. Your point?
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Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: 12-09-2001
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schrafinator, Kerry's Picture is in a place of honor in respect to their victory over the United States,
...and I am sure that Rumsfeld was treated very well by Saddam Hussein when he was there arranging to give him US weapons and training. There is also a portrait of Bush senior with a prominent Saudi in Saudi Arabia. Your point?
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Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: 12-09-2001
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Message 48 of 612 (134069)
08-15-2004 12:17 PM
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Reply to: Message 46 by johnfolton
08-15-2004 11:09 AM
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You can not but feel for the American people that will now be paying excessively for heating costs, this winter because John Kerry filibustered the drilling of oil in Alaska, etc...
You do know that Kerry wants to greatly expand our development of alternative energy sources and fuel efficiency research and development so we can reduce our huge dependence on fossil fuels, particularly to elimiante our dependence upon Middle East oil, don't you? Seeing as Bush, Cheney and their oil industry buddies stand to make a bundle on any oil drilling in Alaska (not to mention the sweetheart deal Cheney's Haliburton got in Iraq which has the second largest untapped oil field in the world), combined with the deep, close ties between the Bush family and the Saudi family, I am not surprised that the current administration hasn't promoted reducing our dependence upon oil.
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heard Kerry was even offended by wind turbines being an eye sore, etc...
Then why is he advocating their use? In the Northwest: Kerry's energy policy diverges sharply from Bush's
Kerry argued yesterday that the country should go in a different direction, combining new technologies with upgrading vital infrastructure such as the nation's power lines. He noted that America's largest wind energy farm sits on the Washington-Oregon border. "I want to push technologies such as wind turbines, biomass and biofuels grids," he said. "Early this year, for instance, I went to a project funded by the University of Northern Iowa. They produce a lubricant made out of soy for use on railroads. It is 99 percent biodegradable, versus oil lubricants that are zero percent. Kerry also pledged to create a $20 billion fund for investment in energy conservation and efficiency. "We can set and meet a goal of getting 20 percent of America's electricity from renewable energy sources by the year 2020," said Kerry.
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Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: 12-09-2001
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Message 49 of 612 (134071)
08-15-2004 12:25 PM
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Reply to: Message 46 by johnfolton
08-15-2004 11:09 AM
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It's kind of interesting cause I don't hate John Kerry, the issue, is John Kerry the hypocrite that the evidence suggest.
Tell me, are you this skeptical of anything regarding Bush? The flight suspension, the cocaine use and alcoholism, the failed businesses, the strong ties with the Saudi royal family, the lack of ability to speak intelligently, the lack of WMD, the fact that bin Laden is still at large, the fact that the tax cuts he instated favor the richest Americans and incerase the tax burden on the middle class, the fact that he squandered the budget surplus into an enormous trade deficit, etc.? Do you feel any outrage about these things at all?
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Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: 12-09-2001
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schrafinator, George Bush is not challenging Kerry about his military record, its the Vets that are challenging Kerry, etc...
So far, you have only mentioned vets who NEVER SERVED WITH KERRY. And the author of your book is well-known to have a huge grudge against Kerry from 30 years ago. So far it looks like a smear campaign looking to make money, because why wouldn't he have raised these issues in the last 30 years?
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Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: 12-09-2001
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I ask you again, are you at all skeptical of GWB?
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Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: 12-09-2001
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Re: Kerry wimped!
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How can one not see Kerry wimpin as a flaw in his character.
If this were true (and you have far from established that it is), I would rather have someone who actually volunteered for and participated in active duty than a alcohilic, coke-head fratboy who was a mediocre student, delinquent military pilot, failed businessman, war monger, and first class bald faced liar.
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Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: 12-09-2001
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Re: Kerry wimped!
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Its no crime to marry into money, but that raises more questions if this was the reason Kerry married his present wife, do you think the reason Kerry married an older woman, was for her money, however, it probably doesn't matter
What a sexist prick you are. She is all of 6 years older than him.
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Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: 12-09-2001
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Message 69 of 612 (134452)
08-16-2004 6:58 PM
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Reply to: Message 67 by nator
08-16-2004 6:44 PM
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Re: Kerry wimped!
If we want to talk about character, what about this?
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nator
Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: 12-09-2001
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Re: Very off-topic but I have to ask...
I found it at Tom Tomorrow's site, I thought.
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Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: 12-09-2001
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Re: Kerry refuses to answer his part in the outsourcing of technology to China, Hmmm
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Coragyps, I try to limit the time I listen to Rush and other watchmen organizations, cause its so.... depressing, however seeing what they said coming to pass is extremely depressing.
Perhaps you would like to read what F.A.I.R. (Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting), a non-partisan media watchdog group has to say about Limbaugh: Page not found - FAIR If you think Limbaugh is a legitimate "watchdog", rather than a highly partisan right-wing tool and entertainer, you are really foolish.
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Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: 12-09-2001
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Re: Kerry.... The No Show Candidate,,,,,,!!!!!!
Whatever, those smear ads mention Kerry's absence from the Senate Intelligence Comittee's hearings after the FIRST attack on the WTC, during Clinton's presidency, NOT 9/11.
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