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Chiroptera
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Message 92 of 612 (135357)
08-19-2004 5:57 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by Coragyps
08-19-2004 1:59 PM


Re: Kerry supports job outsourcing
Hello, Coragyps. I, too, was struck by an obvious Republican supporter criticizing someone for out-sourcing jobs.

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Chiroptera
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Message 164 of 612 (136555)
08-24-2004 1:06 PM
Reply to: Message 161 by crashfrog
08-24-2004 12:24 PM


Re: Kerry accused of heresy,
quote:
Right, I think we've established that you lack the mental prerequisite to understand the difference between personal conviction and public policy.
Isn't this part of the definition of a religious fundamentalist?

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Chiroptera
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Message 177 of 612 (136627)
08-24-2004 6:21 PM
Reply to: Message 174 by crashfrog
08-24-2004 5:11 PM


quote:
Works for me, but then, I'm not crippled by an immature hatred of Democrats.
I think that should be "pathological hatred".

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Chiroptera
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Message 184 of 612 (136659)
08-24-2004 11:33 PM
Reply to: Message 180 by johnfolton
08-24-2004 11:26 PM


quote:
...the Communist Victory in Vietnam....
Are you speaking of when the Vietnamese people finally threw out the foreign invaders of their country and achieve a measure of independence?

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Chiroptera
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Message 225 of 612 (136985)
08-26-2004 9:00 AM
Reply to: Message 224 by johnfolton
08-26-2004 2:17 AM


Re: John Kerry / Benedict Arnold !!!!
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... but a traitor to ones own country.
Why is opposing a war that is killing one's soldiers for no good reason a treasonous act?
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Chiroptera
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Message 227 of 612 (137003)
08-26-2004 11:05 AM
Reply to: Message 226 by crashfrog
08-26-2004 10:59 AM


Re: John Kerry / Benedict Arnold !!!!
And if I recall correctly, it was the Republicans in Congress during the Clinton administration that led the fight to grant China most favored nation status.
Besides the anti-sweatshop activists, the only people who opposed most favored nation status for China were a few hardline anti-communists who didn't seem to realize the Cold War was over.

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Chiroptera
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Message 281 of 612 (137170)
08-26-2004 5:30 PM
Reply to: Message 267 by johnfolton
08-26-2004 4:01 PM


quote:
The question remains that the Vets are in essense calling Mr. Kerry a Benedict Arnold(traitor), and that you all apparently agree, that Kerry is a traitor, to us and ours, but its quite interesting that to you all this is a reason to vote for Kerry. [Bolding is mine.]
What? Did I miss something?

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Chiroptera
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Message 289 of 612 (137192)
08-26-2004 6:46 PM
Reply to: Message 288 by johnfolton
08-26-2004 6:41 PM


(Oh, this is going to be good!)
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Clinton by not standing up for us and ours is the traitor(the constitution)
Have you read the Constitution? What exactly makes Clinton a traitor?
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not to serve in the United Nations global army
What global army does the United Nations have? Do you realize that the units serving under the United Nations are borrowed from the member nations national armies? And these nations can recall their units at any time?
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to risk life and limb for their agenda's
(This is where it is going to get good.) And what is their agenda?

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Chiroptera
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Message 291 of 612 (137197)
08-26-2004 7:24 PM
Reply to: Message 290 by johnfolton
08-26-2004 7:02 PM


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The U.N. Charter declares that all human rights are derived from the U.N.
Where does it say that?
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Our Constitution and Declaration of Independence declare that all human rights are God-given and that no man or government can abridge them.
Where does the U.S. Constitution say that?
At any rate, what does this have to do with either Kerry or Clinton?

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Chiroptera
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Message 297 of 612 (137234)
08-26-2004 10:41 PM
Reply to: Message 292 by johnfolton
08-26-2004 9:25 PM


No, no, whatever. I asked some specific questions. You didn't answer them. I will repeat my post; the quotes are from a previous post of yours.
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quote:
The U.N. Charter declares that all human rights are derived from the U.N.
Where does it say that?
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quote:
Our Constitution and Declaration of Independence declare that all human rights are God-given and that no man or government can abridge them.
Where does the U.S. Constitution say that?
At any rate, what does this have to do with either Kerry or Clinton?

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Chiroptera
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Message 304 of 612 (137332)
08-27-2004 10:18 AM
Reply to: Message 302 by johnfolton
08-27-2004 2:50 AM


Re:
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...Making me question if Kerry quest for success has compromised American soverienty, etc...
whatever, I'm still intrigued by this U.N. thing. You still haven't answered my questions about the U.N. Here is a repeat of an earlier post I wrote, asking you some questions. The quotes are statements you made:
quote:
The U.N. Charter declares that all human rights are derived from the U.N.
Where does it say that?
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quote:
Our Constitution and Declaration of Independence declare that all human rights are God-given and that no man or government can abridge them.
Where does the U.S. Constitution say that?

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Chiroptera
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Message 317 of 612 (137367)
08-27-2004 12:14 PM
Reply to: Message 315 by Dan Carroll
08-27-2004 12:12 PM


And the U.S. isn't going to be a superpower forever -- nothing lasts forever. It'll be interesting, when the U.S. is just another minor country in the world, hear the whatevers and paisanos squealing about how evil and awful the new super power is when it is riding roughshod over U.S. interests.

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Chiroptera
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Message 318 of 612 (137368)
08-27-2004 12:18 PM
Reply to: Message 316 by johnfolton
08-27-2004 12:12 PM


Re:
quote:
What wrong with American law is that its starting to align with World law, and thats high treason, however....
You don't seem to understand what treason is, whatever. Did you know the Constitution defines treason? How is this treason?
"World law" includes the Geneva conventions. If the U.S. follows the Geneva Conventions during wartime, is that high treason, also?

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Chiroptera
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Message 323 of 612 (137375)
08-27-2004 12:41 PM
Reply to: Message 320 by johnfolton
08-27-2004 12:27 PM


Re:
quote:
You miss the point....
No, the point is you make strange statements of questionable veracity, you ignore people's questions, and you show no signs of actually understanding the issues which you are discussing. Your thougt processes are very muddled, and you seem to have a high degree of paranoia.
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the supreme court is suppose to base decisions on US law, not World law,
All treaties and international agreements signed by the President and ratified by the Senate are, according to the U.S. Constitution, for all intents and purposes, U.S. law.
Now, what "World law" are you talking about in regards to gay marriage? The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled various sodomy laws as unconstitutional. Since the U.S. Constitution is the highest law in the U.S. this sounds like what the Supreme Court is supposed to do.
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Why not just have the people vote either for or against gay marriage, and put it to rest, rather than have it forced upon the states,
This is exactly where it is happening. All the states that have allowed gay marriages or civil unions have done so either because of laws passed by those state legislatures, or because those state's courts have ruled that such bans violated the state constititutions. So far, the U.S. Supreme Court has had nothing to say about gay marriage.
What are the odds that you will actually address these points rather than just repeat what you have already said, or move on to a new topic? In fact, I thought the original topic was Kerry's suitability as President. What does gay marriage and sodomy laws have to do with Kerry, anyway?
Oh yeah. Kerry is a traitor because he is a puppet to a shadowy cabal in the U.N. intent on taking over the U.S. Under orders from his U.N./Chinese masters, Kerry is going to make everyone marry a homosexual. Is that about it?

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Chiroptera
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Message 329 of 612 (137431)
08-27-2004 4:04 PM
Reply to: Message 316 by johnfolton
08-27-2004 12:12 PM


Re:
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George is actually trying to get an congressional amendment to prevent gay marriages,
Since you have stated that this should be up to the states to decide, then you disaprove of Bush's amendment, right?

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