A question for Athiests/Evolutionists. (re: How can one not belive in something greater than himself? et all)

I see no evidence of Zeus in nature.

It's a line I use with door-knockers."Do you believe in God?""No I don't believe in Thor, sorry!"Many christians seems to think that it's a straight "atheists oppose the christian god" - for most of us the starting question is not "god - Real or not?" it's "God? - which one?"

That's an interesting take - one that most of the christians here avoid taking.You statement says that God created Evil therefore God=Evil.

So if I get my head smashed in or I'm dragged into an alley and raped - it's because he allowed some people to be like that?Gee thanks?However you are still saying that God creates Evil.

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One who is drunken will braul, was his hand forced? He understands not why he gets violent - yet he chooses to drink. Will science be useful to him?

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Well:1) One he clearly had an underlying problem - maybe he was abused by a priest or had a sad upbringing of some other nature.2) Yes - I see that they are not far off approving an inplant that will stop booze affecting the body. So yes Science could be VERY useful for him.

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God allowed evil to be created by the devil. I do not find him resposible.

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No I don't find the devil responsible either- it's clear from what you have said that God could stop this when he wants. He must get some form of sick kick from allowing the devil to do this.I mean if you had a dog and you allowed it to bit people, who would be responsible - the dog? or the owner?

People on this thread have said that Evil doesn't exist?People have said on this forum that child murderers are not committing evil?Can you point to it?People can commit evil actions and we can believe in the concept of Evil without belief with your bronze-age goatherder godhead.This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 11-21-2004 09:05 PM

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I do not blame Him because He only does this to earn our love

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So if I get a guy to beat the shit out of you and then visit you in the hospital and help you to heal (for which you love me) - I'm the good guy rather than a sicko?

oh please.....

You seem to have totally missed the point of my question.Why would you deserve to be beated up?Let me ask again - the only reason you have been beated up - is so I can look after you in the hospital and make you love me.This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 11-21-2004 09:16 PM

So if I am beated into a coma and never recover - what did I learn?What if I a baby and burnt to death?

I've got to ask 1) How old are you ? 2) you do realise that those examples are not meant to be taken in a literal sense?This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 11-22-2004 02:34 AM

OK - you have made a claim about the media covering up miracles, can you provide any evidence to back this claim?

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Thank you people so much. This is what I look forward to after school, having intelligent conversations.

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Hey crash - don't worry if some of us seems a bit harsh at times, this is like our wrestling ring. Pop over to the coffee shop if you get the time and tell us a bit more about yourself and your hobbies.bestCharles

In addition to want Happy said, you have to understand that science actually says nothing about God and never will. The idea of God is untestable using scientific methodology.