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Purple- Sorry I had to reply on a different thread-
I'm not saying that there is a separation from spiritual to non spiritual. I am saying the nature of the two are different. This is because One is creator,and one is the fruit of the other. I believe that all things natural are connected to a unifying source. And when I say a unifying source, I mean a solid explanation for all things. I believe science is seeking to discover the source. When I say supernatural, I mean one who is the creator and of course outside of physical laws. I say this only because, believe it or not, the laws of physics had an origin. The fact is that there seems to be an inherant order to the workings of the universe. And now scientifically, there is no doubt a oneness, a prelude to a unified theory to this order of all things that we can physically sense. Basically, there is only one explanation and truth to why it's all here. Science knows and understands this, and has created it's own faiths in order to have it all make sense.
In the words of The Nuclear Physicist, Gerald Schroeder :"We humans like to label things, wrap our minds around a concept, to define and package it; in essense to limit it so that the concept finds harmony within our human definition of logic. But how does someone label or even think about that which is not part of our physical world? Confining the metaphysical to a physical description totally misses the "meta" aspect." (1) I will now attempt to explain biblically why my faith carries weight.
The Bible's definition of Who God Is can be summed in a few words: 1.He is One: (Deut.6:4) says The Lord Our God is One Lord. John 1:3, says that all things were made by him. And Hebrews 1:3 says that all things are upheld by the Word of his Power. I think this means that every thing in existance is actually held in existance by his word. The very reason we see nothing and boggle at why nothing is the basis of all matter is because we are not looking at a thing at all, we are looking at the Power of his Word, the "expression of an idea" that we cannot explain. And his word is in fact invisible.
2. He is Invisible: The Bible says(paraphrased) God is Invisible (Col.1:15). This explains why we cannot find him. This is why non-believers will not give him the credit; they can't see him. They would rather assume we popped out of nowhere from nothing and propogate a religion claiming that it must be true. Even if there is no proof for the assumption (i.e. God is not possible).
3. He is Eternal: (Deut 33:27), 2 Co.4:18 tells us that the things which we can see are in fact temporal, meaning they will not last forever. It also tells us that the things which are not seen (invisible, metaphysical, faith required) are in fact eternal. In short, the God of the Bible, (Jew, Christain, Muslim) is this one unified thing that ties all and holds all together. Scientists won't deny that there is a unified theory, simply because we inherantly know that only one unifying truth exists. If the God of the Bible claims to be who he says he is and can do what he says he can do, then it perfectly aligns with the unity of all things and the mysterious, invisible non-thing which is at the root of all things.
(1) Gerald Shroeder, "The Hidden Face of God"
pg.12
This message has been edited by Physrho, 08-31-2005 01:33 PM
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