A question for Athiests/Evolutionists. (re: How can one not belive in something greater than himself? et all)

Just because someone is an atheist doesn't mean that they don't beleive in things greater than themselves.I beleve, or have faith in the followion things, democracy (though I must admit this is a trying time for my faith), Science, the power of rational debate, certian ethical theories, and even the various communities that I am part of.Do these qualify as things that are greater than myself? They are not greater than mankind perhaps but they are greater than any one human.Perhaps if you explained what you meant by this phrase we could discuss it better.

Well, If one doesn't belive in spirits at all then one can't beleve in things that are more spirtiualy powerful.

Anyone who beleves that God is omnipotent, and belives that evil exsists, must believe that God allows evil to exsist. Otherwise the god would not be omnipotent.Personaly, I would much rather believe in a less than omnipotent god who is purely good, than an omnipotent god that chooses not to intervene when horrible things happen.This message has been edited by The Dread Dormammu, 11-21-2004 08:08 PM

Heh, I disagree because even when we have a great deal of evedence for something people STILL choose to disbelive it.An obvious example is evoulution. We have volumes and volumes of evedence to support this theory but people still refuse to accept it. Just look at the numbers in the U.S. of people who beleve that the earth was created several thousand years ago.

Chimps aren't monkeys, they are apes.Bees oviously do have some kind of "imagination" if they can communicate using symbols. When a bee dances it communicates information.

Perhaps we should start another thread about this. Because I think that It doesn't matter whether it is preprogarmmed or not.