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Ben!
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Message 1 of 304 (167327)
12-12-2004 7:01 AM


I'm opening a thread to do bug reporting. As a former software tester and software designer, ... yeah, gotta have it.
Now, I'm not trying to hack the board at all (i.e. doing real testing), just making a place to report bugs when I see them.
Ben

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Ben!
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Message 2 of 304 (167328)
12-12-2004 7:02 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Ben!
12-12-2004 7:01 AM


Currently not disallowing the HTMOL "body" tag
As mentioned somewhere else, you should disallow the HTML "BODY" tag, if you want to stop people from re-coloring the background color of this page.
Ben

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Ben!
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Message 3 of 304 (167329)
12-12-2004 7:05 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Ben!
12-12-2004 7:01 AM


HTML "Bookmark" refs don't work
The following code doesn't work:
go to bookmark in my post
the link produced by the orignial statement is a bookmark at http:// (i.e. a url pointing to http:///#bookmark)
Demo:
see paragraph about Tannenbaum (click me!!)
boo boo
Tannenbaum

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Ben!
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Message 4 of 304 (167343)
12-12-2004 9:48 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Ben!
12-12-2004 7:01 AM


Not disallowing HTML "Base" tag
the "base" HTML tag sets the base URL for all relative URLs on a webpage. If you have any relative URLs in your HTML generation, then allowing the "base" HTML tag in a post would break those links (and possibly expose users to spoofing?)
Thanks!
Ben

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Message 5 of 304 (167352)
12-12-2004 10:50 AM
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12-12-2004 9:48 AM


Re: Not disallowing HTML "Base" tag
Body, style and base have already been added to the HTML filter list for the Christmas release. Thanks for finding these!
The base tag currently placed in message pages is not present in the Christmas release, so your bookmark example will be working soon.
I need help testing and coding. Your email is private, so if you can help please send an email to Admin.

--Percy
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Ben!
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Message 6 of 304 (167820)
12-13-2004 6:37 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Ben!
12-12-2004 7:01 AM


Bug in 'most recent posts' function
When I click on my name to view my 'most recent posts', I have this thread in my list:
http://EvC Forum: Male studies -->EvC Forum: Male studies
but not this one:
http://EvC Forum: How, and where, does gene expression work? -->EvC Forum: How, and where, does gene expression work?
Both of these are errors. I'm not sure if there's more missing or added.
Ben

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Message 7 of 304 (167827)
12-13-2004 7:01 PM
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12-13-2004 6:37 PM


Re: Bug in 'most recent posts' function
I haven't investigated it in any depth, but my GUESS is that the Proposed New Topic is showing up because it reused a topic number of a topic you started. I may be wrong.
When I checked just now, the second topic was at the top of your list. Maybe you were seeing an old cached version of the list?
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Ben!
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Message 8 of 304 (167838)
12-13-2004 7:43 PM
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12-13-2004 7:01 PM


Re: Bug in 'most recent posts' function
Ah, shoot. I guess it's been a while since I was working in software...
I destroyed the "repro" by posting to the missing topic. I guess it regenerated the list.
Stupid.
But the other thread that is NOT mine still appears in my list (Male studies (PerfectDeath)).
Ben

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Message 9 of 304 (167862)
12-13-2004 8:53 PM
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12-13-2004 7:43 PM


Re: Bug in 'most recent posts' function
Very weird bug, can't imagine how it might be happening. Please keep you eye on it and let me know if you pick up more threads that you haven't contributed to. There's got to be a clue in there somewhere.

--Percy
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Message 10 of 304 (167865)
12-13-2004 9:07 PM
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12-13-2004 6:37 PM


Re: Bug in 'most recent posts' function
The http://EvC Forum: Male studies URL was that of the "How, and where, does gene expression work?" topic you proposed. When it was approved, and the Proposed New Topics version was deleted, the "Male studies" PNT reused the same topic number (same URL).
See the archive index page here.
Put your cursor over the above cited topic. Note the "25-000402" towards the end of the URL. That was the forum number-topic number of the proposed version.
Yes Percy, PNT topic numbers are sometimes still being reused.
Adminnemooseus

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Message 11 of 304 (167878)
12-13-2004 9:57 PM
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12-13-2004 9:07 PM


Re: Bug in 'most recent posts' function
Yes, you've got it, there's reuse of topic numbers! Also, I see Member Message Lists aren't being updated during archiving.
The latter is already fixed in the new release.
The former, I can't see where it's happening. It's on my list, though.

--Percy
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Ben!
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Message 12 of 304 (169256)
12-17-2004 3:46 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Ben!
12-12-2004 7:01 AM


Search Function Results
I can't get "search" to return this thread in any circumstance:
http://EvC Forum: Natural heuristic solutions: evidence against Creationism? -->EvC Forum: Natural heuristic solutions: evidence against Creationism? (Natural Heuristic Solutions: Evidence Against Creationism?)
I tried all of these different searches:
  • Search "Heuristic" in SUBJECT: no author
  • Search "Heuristic" in SUBJECT: bencip19 author
  • Search "" in SUBJECT: bencip19 author


(and some others that are basically the same)
Ben

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Message 13 of 304 (169257)
12-17-2004 3:48 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Ben!
12-12-2004 7:01 AM


Drop-down menus and search webpage
One of the strangest behavior's I've seen. Not really too important, but, best to report all that I see.
At http://http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/search_new.cgi
If you use the menus such as "Side Order" or "Bits & Bytes" on this page, the menus hide BEHIND the combo boxes "Search Forum/Archive" and "Search By". Totally weird behavior. They show in front of all other fields.
Ben

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Message 14 of 304 (169259)
12-17-2004 4:14 AM
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12-17-2004 3:48 AM


Re: Drop-down menus and search webpage
1) Search problems -
Percy knows more, but my short answer is - The size of the contents of the various forums are getting too large for indexing to keep updated - or perhaps the index files are getting to large - or something like that.
There is a process to try to get these indexes rebuilt (a processor heavy process), but I don't know if they are effective, or if they may cause other problems. The last time I tried using it, it caused problems with the "Biological Evolution" forum - That forum would no longer accept new topics. That's why there's now the "Biological Evolution II" forum.
Google is quite effective at finding things.
2) Drop down menu problem -
This has been reported before. My testing shows that the situation shows up with Internet Explorer, but not Mozilla.
I gotta get to bed,
Adminnemooseus

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Message 15 of 304 (169300)
12-17-2004 9:09 AM


Dynamic Menus Going Away
The dynamic menus that appear at the top of most pages will be going away with the new release. I wanted to keep them, but as the board software may be going commercial it was important to purchase the rights to the original menu software. The purchase price for a license allowing redistribution of source code was $160,000. Needless to say, that's a bit beyond the budget.
I would like to restore the dynamic menus, and I'm currently investigating other alternatives. I'd develop in-house, but dynamic menus are written in JavaScript, which is notoriously browser dependent. It isn't the implementation that is difficult, but getting it to work across all the widely-used versions and flavors of browsers.
Loss of the dynamic menus is being balanced by additional links, including a drop-down for the forums at the bottom of most pages.

--Percy
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