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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
Well, does that mean that anyone who calls themselves a Christian, no matter how heinous their behavior or views, can still be a "true" Christian in your eyes? quote: Yes, of course he is a Buddhist. Who am I to say otherwise? He could simply be not very successful at being a Buddhist. Similarly, didn't you just say that you couldn't actually judge who is a "true" Christian or not, and that the matter was between the individual and God? Which is it?
Let me explain. By "inconsistencies", I mean the fact that there are so very many religions that are currently practiced, or have been practiced in the past. Most of them claim to be the Truth, and that all the others are wrong. They can't all be right, and the largest determinant of what religion you will be is the place you were born combined with the religion of your parents. quote: O...Kaaaaay. See, that's part of the stuff that every religion says, except with different dieties. Saying "it's in the Bible" is meaningless when we can also say "It's in every other holy book and religious oral tradition."
I have no problem with whatever anyone believes. However, when people start to claim that theirs is the One True Faith, and that another faith, or lack of faith, is inferior to their view, I have a problem. The Christians I have encountered on this board generally think it's normal to think their worldview is superior to all others. That bugs me. quote: It also has the potential to seriously endanger my freedoms and rights, if the people like this are not put in check.
quote: Yes, I'm sure it would be good for them to think on that, but in the mean time, they are not particularly encouraged to do so. In the meantime, they are imposing their views upon many other people in the world and in the US. An oppressive group which thinks it's right with God is the hardest foe to beat.
No, I clearly have it better than you, because I can appreciate the beauty in Jesus, but I can also appreciate the beauty in Zen, in the Buddha, in the Great Spirit, and in Krishna. I would guess that you would not allow yourself to approach these religions in the open way that I can. quote: Well, yes, on that we can agree. ...which makes me think of your rather negative stance on homosexuality.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: You don't. But then why are you here, on a debate board?
quote: Sure, why not? It's up to them to decide, isn't it?
quote: Good.
quote: I've just been following you around. Stop walking in circles and it will cease being a circular conversation.
quote: I am after reasoning and explanation.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Eww, don't flatter yourself. I think it's more like the way we like to rubberneck at car wrecks.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Nobody is "pro"-abortion. We are pro-"safe and legal" abortion. Nobody thinks abortion is a fabulous, positive thing, but it is a necessary thing. On the other hand there are plenty of people (often the same people who want to make all abortion illegal) who are, actually pro-death penalty. ...in that they do think that the execution of citizens by the state is a positive, fabulous thing.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Or, you manage to psych yourself out when you play at church, because you feel totally safe, confident, and accepted there, but you don't when you play elsewhere.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: I disagree. Banks have an enormous inpact on their communities through who they decide to lend money to (or not), if only the people who deposit large sums get basic benefits, etc. They also have been at the forefront of the movement in the service sector of maintaining the "almost full time" employee which gives the bank lots of hours of work but the employee doesn't quite qualify for benefits because they don't work full time. That's why I have my money in a credit union, which is a not for profit institution.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: It depends. If someone is using pot, or alcohol, or work, or church, or the internet to insulate themselves from their problems, or to avoid their responsibilities, then all of those things could be considered bad for them. If, on the other hand, a person is suffering a lot of nausea while undergoing chemotherapy as a part of their cancer treatment, the use of marijuana seems to relieve their symptoms more effectively without as many side effects as other drugs. That makes those people's pot use, their "getting high" very good for them, indeed.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Never said it was completely good. It was YOU who said it was completely bad. You said that "getting high is bad for you.", and I just provided an example of a circumstance in which using marijuana would be good for someone, compared to doing nothing or taking other drugs. So, it's not always and forever true that "getting high" is bad. DO you agree?
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Uh, fermented grapejuice is, in fact, wine. Alcoholic fermentation. Fermented wine is vinegar. Acetification.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Oh. Well, that isn't what you said.
quote: Or neutral.
quote: So, it's the sick girl's fault that she doesn't have enough faith to cure herself of cancer? That is really twisted.
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