Big Bang - Big Dud

Thanks for agreeing with me but these "evo witnessers" are just trying (trying key word) to maintain a healthy debate. The creation vs. evolution debate is not spiritual, its good science vs. bad science.

No, it means that we have to accept our models of the natural world on a tentative basis, and continually refine them in the light of additional data. In other words, we have to practice science. In Missouri? Because I moved here. If you can't come up with the answers yourself, I can't help you. If its so hard for you to come up with a purpose for yourself that you need an infinitely powerful being to do it for you, then you simply don't have enough imagination.

Oh? You're smart enough to second-guess God?

Obviously you are otherwise you would believe that he created this universe.

Certainly there is that possibility. But if it didn't happen like that, why to we have the cosmic background radiation all around us, helping contribute to the static on the televisions of those poor folk still on rabbit ears? Why are distant galaxies all receding from us, the more distant ones more quickly?You're perfectly welcome to posit some creator to start it all, if that's what floats your boat. But in my view, such a thing is just one more level of complexity to explain in an already complex universe - and a level with no physical evidence for itself.

This sounds to me like changing answers to one question: How did everything come to be as it is today? What you just said portrays that you every new piece of data is desperately used to support theories that are falling apart. I have the answers, they're in the Bible but where are yours? I don't have to come up with a purpose for my life, God already has one. I am given free will to love God or reject him, obey him or disobey him, die eternally or live eternally. That probably sounds like a load of crap to those who can only believe in a world you can touch, but the way he has changed my life and countless others is more real than anything on this earth.Crash, you didn't even answer my question. Instead of saying "I" you said just related to me: What is YOUR purpose in life? Give me a straight answer, that's all I want. Why are YOU unique from everyone else? Evolution and the Big Bang cannot answer these questions.

That is off topic here. Don't force me to close the topic for a rest.

I'll bet the BB can't even address that one question, but have you considered just how many base pairs are in your or my (or Crash's) genome? We just about have to be unique with as many possibilities for recombination as we have. There's only 6.3 billion of us on this planet, after all.AbE:
I'll get back on topic now, NN.This message has been edited by Coragyps, 01-28-2005 16:39 AM

I'm talking about the uniqueness of your personality, the way you talk, your passions, what makes chills go down your back, courage, honor, like actual virtues. How did those come from monkeys?....Sorry, I'm still a beginner. But I would like crash to answer the question as well as anyone else. But I'll try to relate it back to the Big Bang theory being a complete sham...it seems like every question that evolutionists really don't want to answer gets scolded or rejected.This message has been edited by daaaaaBEAR, 01-28-2005 16:46 AM

This board works in a very particular way that many new people struggle to understand - People will be happy to answer your question, but in the RIGHT forum.I'm sure a thread on this topic has come up before? anyone?

Hey, I'm not the one that believes in him, and I'm certainly not the one here who's attempting to speak on his behalf.

Yes, the answers change as our knowledge increases. Why does that bother you? Should we never change our minds about anything, even when it's obvious that we're wrong? There might be a number of reasons why that might be so. For instance, perhaps I have yet to decide what my purpose is. Or perhaps the process that led me to that purpose was so painful or personal that I don't feel compelled to lay out my life story to be picked over by the likes of you.Or maybe I just don't find the question all that important. Can you even imagine that? A person who's genuinely not all that interested in his "purpose"? I doubt it. No, I'm not answering your question. It's certainly not on topic in this thread for me to do so. What on Earth makes you think I think I am? Exactly correct. Therefore your questions are not on topic in this thread.

It's not complex at all, God being the ultimate Creator is the simplest answer if you believe in it. And wouldn't an "already complex universe" make the Big Bang theory less credible and the idea of a Creator more truthful to the facts.

It doesn't bother me but it should bother you and others who follow the same logic. Knowledge about our universe will probably always increase but what about the truth? Do theories just hold as temporary answers till a more reliable one arises? Theories don't prove anything. Portraying these theories as fact is hypocrisy, when you criticize Creationists for their beliefs in a created universe.

This life is short, you better figure it out.