Wyatt's Ark of the Covenent

I thought the story was that RW took a perfect photograph but that God blurred it because we aren't ready to see the Ark clearly. For God blurring a photograph is nothing. The photographs aren't meant to convince. God either has revealed to you the truth and then these are just exciting pre prophetic teasers or has removed your spiritual sense so that you wallow in atheism and are led to disagree with those who have had the truth revealed. I guess you could pray that God will soften your heart and allow you to believe.I am leaning towards concluding Ron was a deliberate huckster con artist, but there remains a small possibility that he was just seriously self deluded.lfen

for photoshop, it's nothing either.we're discussing a similar topic in the jesus/toarh-nevi'im-psalms thread. what use is prophesy, if it's only revealed to prophets and nobody else?i think i'm gonna do a summer project sometime called "let's discredit ron wyatt!" basically, make a nice-looking fake ark, and run around town photographing yourself with it. and i mean, real, nice, clear photos. kind of like what you'd do if you stole your neighbor's garden gnome.i mean, how do we know that "photo" was even shot by ron wyatt? how do we know it's a photo? how do we know it was shot in israel? we can't even establish the basic frame or reference for it, let alone tell what it's a picture OF.This message has been edited by Arachnophilia, 05-07-2005 11:00 PM

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[quote]satan has duped the world into thinking that Ron's discoveries are a fraud.

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Pascal's Wager......nice try.

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satan has duped the world into thinking that Ron's discoveries are a fraud.

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I'm not an atheist and the discoveries are a fraud.
Based on the qualities of the ark of the covenant and how deadly it was to handle it, and also based on Revelation 11:19.
To touch it meant death. To go near it when God's glory rested on it, was suicide. Enough evidence exists for that fact.
There's a lot of 'dupation' going on. No Christian with an understanding of the worth of this vessel, will believe that God left it lying around for the unconsecrated, unclean to find it.
Simple as that.

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Pascal's Wager......nice try.

PecosGeorge,You poor soul. I feel so sorry for you that you are deluded into thinking Ron's discoveries are a fraud. How little you know and how you will regret your opinion in the end. You will see that we were right in the end. Don't worry, I guarantee it.I know for a FACT that the Ark of the Covenant is down in that cave, and I know for a FACT that all 4 other discoveries are authentic. You never knew Ron Wyatt, nor do you know any of his family, that is why you come to your ugly conclusion. You obviously haven't read the evidence pointing to the important fact that the Ark of the Covenant STILL is within the walls of Jerusalem based on the sequence of events described in Maccabees and scripture. Ron Wyatt's theory of the location of the Ark is the most solid theory out there.'nuff said.This message has been edited by Lysimachus, 05-08-2005 11:00 AM

To claim to have found so many biblical artifacts, and to present so little (and worthless) evidence actually takes some doing.Every single claim Wyatt made is a mess, nothing at all can be verified with any degree of certainty. Where on earth are the enquiry skills of the people who believe this nonsense?There's gullible and there's gullible, but the Wyatt stuff is simply childish.A lot of people making money off it I bet.Brian.

Does denying Ron Wyatts findings constitute sin? I mean, is it an offense damnable to hell?The way you say it, it sure seems you think it is. PecosGeorge is a born again Christian, so by standard doctrain he is saved and going to heaven. Does your doctrine suggest that if you don't belive Ron's stuff, your damned?

From HERE Can anyone make sense of this?I have read it about ten times and Ron seems to be contradicting himself.Did he or did he not take the ‘tables’ of stone out of the Ark? Q. I have heard that you took the tables of stone out of the Ark?

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A. No. This is something that has amazed me. I can talk to a whole audience and I think we have a perfect understanding of what I have said, and then somebody will misquote me. I never said that. I said that the angel told me to take the tables of stone out of the Ark of the Covenant, and the four of them took hold of the corners of the Mercy Seat and lifted it so that I could get to the tables of stone. I took them out, backed away while they set the Mercy Seat back down on the Ark. I just stood there wondering what to do. The angel came and took the tables and put them on a stone shelf in the chamber. And that is where they are at this point in time, that is also where the video is.Anyone any idea what Ron was on about?Brian

*Blinks*I thought I'd read most of Ron's stuff but

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the four of them took hold of the corners of the Mercy Seat and lifted it

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Four angels appeared and lifted the seat? No offense to the christians here but can you understand why we find this so hard to believe?

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The angel came and took the tables and put them on a stone shelf in the chamber. And that is where they are at this point in time, that is also where the video is.

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Hey Ron leave the VCR! - anyone actually picture an Angel saying this?Are we not getting beyond parody here?

"I took the tablets out of the box" could have two readings."I took the tablets that were in the box"or"I removed the tablets from the box"Wyatt is denying the former, stating that he left the tablets in the cave. Where people got the idea that he had taken the tablets out with him would be an interesting question.

Take two tablets and call me in the morning.

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You poor soul. I feel so sorry for you that you are deluded into thinking Ron's discoveries are a fraud. How little you know and how you will regret your opinion in the end. You will see that we were right in the end. Don't worry, I guarantee it.

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This poor soul knows that God makes no mistakes and is not mocked, nor made a mockery of. So focus your pity on yourself, you won't get any from me.
How little I know is based on the many details scripture gives, and it gives the information that you do not have the ark of the covenant. The ark served a purpose while on earth, this purpose ended when Christ gave his life. The ark is in heaven according to Rev. 11:19. This is what the bible says and not based on my opinion.Based on the 'little' I know, your guarantee isn't worth the time you took to mention it.

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I know for a FACT that the Ark of the Covenant is down in that cave, and I know for a FACT that all 4 other discoveries are authentic. You never knew Ron Wyatt, nor do you know any of his family, that is why you come to your ugly conclusion. You obviously haven't read the evidence pointing to the important fact that the Ark of the Covenant STILL is within the walls of Jerusalem based on the sequence of events described in Maccabees and scripture. Ron Wyatt's theory of the location of the Ark is the most solid theory out there.

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A solid theory is the same as two birds in a bush, even a MOST solid one. I say that John is correct in Rev. 11:19 and the ark was taken to heaven after it served its purpose here.

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Ron Wyatt's theory of the location of the Ark is the most solid theory out there.

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'Somewhere out there'? Sorry, but that's the best laugh I've had all morning.I shall contemplate the sound reasoning behind the statement 'most solid theory'.Done!

I have to start wondering who is actually crazy here. Poor old Ron who dreams all this stuff up, or the poor unfortunate souls who believe everything that Ron said.It does say a lot about how different people accept different levels of evidence. I cannot imagine anyone that I know who would entertain Ron's claims for a second, yet we get an alleged impartial university professor who thinks that Ron was a genius and swallows all Ron's material hook line and sinker. I can only imagine that Moller has went a little senile since he gained his doctorate.Then this environmental medicine professor, who informs us that he is not a theologian, historian or an archaeologist, informs the specialists in the academic world that Moses was actually pharaoh Thutmosis II because Thutmosis had a hooked nose! Deary me, no wonder the happy clappy brigade are creaming themsleves when a university professor announces that the Exodus happened and we have the evidence for it. But the audience do not have a clue what evidence actually is, so Moller will rake in a lot of money for his retirement, maybe he isn't so daft after all.A fool and his money, as they say.Brian.PS, you should read more of the material in the link, Ron would have been a hoot at parties.

Cheers Paul, I see what it is now.It would have been obvious if Ron had said " yes, I did take them out of the box, but I didn't keep them."As they say, all language is ambiguous.Brian.

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Can anyone make sense of this?

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I have read it about ten times and Ron seems to be contradicting himself.

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Did he or did he not take the ‘tables’ of stone out of the Ark?

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Q. I have heard that you took the tables of stone out of the Ark?

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A. No. This is something that has amazed me. I can talk to a whole audience and I think we have a perfect understanding of what I have said, and then somebody will misquote me. I never said that. I said that the angel told me to take the tables of stone out of the Ark of the Covenant, and the four of them took hold of the corners of the Mercy Seat and lifted it so that I could get to the tables of stone. I took them out, backed away while they set the Mercy Seat back down on the Ark. I just stood there wondering what to do. The angel came and took the tables and put them on a stone shelf in the chamber. And that is where they are at this point in time, that is also where the video is.

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Anyone any idea what Ron was on about?

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Prolonged exposure to cave dust? Caveitis? A mockery of something of great meaning, a sad commentary on what some people are prepared to do.