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arachnophilia
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Message 31 of 304 (210623)
05-23-2005 2:22 PM
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05-23-2005 2:17 PM


Tell me about it. How many died in this "nuclear strike?" How great an area was affected by it? How far away was it witnessed/detected? How long did the effects continue?
look it up. it leveled a good section of the siberian forests, in a giant radial pattern. it was witnessed entering the atmosphere from miles away. i don't think it left a crater though, it wasn't pic enough. the was seen to have exploded before it hit the ground.
as for how many died, i think something on the order of a dozen. but not many people live in the siberian wilderness.

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Message 32 of 304 (210624)
05-23-2005 2:23 PM
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05-23-2005 1:44 PM


Not all countries have as many geologists as Australia, U.S., Europe.
Not all countries care enough about bolide impacts to look for them.
Not all countries have geologists who are familiar enough with what bolide impacts look like in the field.
Not all countries have the resources to send their geologists out to the field to look specifically for bolide impacts.
Not all countries are in direct communication with the people at Earth Impact Database.
Not all impacts occur on the surface of the earth, and the ones occurring in the subsurface would be extremely difficult to find, much less identify. One that has been found: Alamo Impact
Some impacts even occur on land covered by flowing ice.
Hundreds of bolide impacts during the flood year would most certainly be noticed by someone floating about the ocean.

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Message 33 of 304 (210625)
05-23-2005 2:24 PM
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05-23-2005 2:16 PM


Re: Guessing?
Well but you are guessing too and you don't know how close Noah was to the Kazakhstan hits and you don't know whether the impact was in water or wet earth or whatnot. My guessing is as good as yours I dare say.
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Faith, you need to remember we are not talking about the little, bitty, tiny dust grain sized rocks that hit earth every year. The little bitty ones of only a few hundred tons are slowed by even the atmosphere.
We are talking about those which leave visible impact creators of 100's of meters.
Well, how many of these and where are they located?
You say "wet earth"??????? You have no clue how silly that sounds. Soils are, perhaps, 10's of feet deep. These things vaporize rock to much greater than that depth.
The flood saturated everything down to bedrock. I figure the wet earth would keep down the dust and debris factor. To some extent that must be the case, certainly with the smaller ones. And if they impacted under water, all the more so.
Besides where did 'wet earth' come from. I though you said this happened during the flood year? How many did and how many didn't? Remember it is pretty clear that they are NOT all the same age. Perhaps you would put Barringer at post flood? How long ago then? Which others are post flood and which during?
I'm simply guessing they were associated with the whole catastrophe of the flood, both during and afterward for some time -- how long afterward -???? I'm not trying to account for every hit.
You seem to think that if this idea of there being a problem with the impacts is correct then the earth is, in fact, not only a few 1,000's years old? Is that true?
Not following you. But I'm a YEC remember.

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arachnophilia
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Message 34 of 304 (210627)
05-23-2005 2:27 PM
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05-23-2005 2:15 PM


Re: Not 6000 years, 4000.
Well I'm postulating they hit in deep water. That changes the picture of debris and dust clouds, formulae notwithstanding.
the k-t event hit deep water. it still killed something like 90% of the life on earth. like i said, water doesn't stick around in temperatures of several thousand degrees.
Great. And it absolutely devastated the climate worldwide, right? Covered the whole earth in dust and debris, right? And killed most of the eyewitnesses, right?
it also didn't leave a crater. we're talking about things that actually make craters, and some of them several hundred miles wide (like the k-t one). so the example of effects similar to a small nuclear bomb is rather magified with the bigger rocks that we're talking about.
So far I haven't heard anything that supports the idea that they would necessarily wreck the atmosphere and kill all living things
ok, well, what do you suppose would happen if a planet-buster hit us? flood or not. you think an asteroid measured in cubic MILES would make a huge dent in the earth, and NOT kick up dust?

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CK
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Message 35 of 304 (210628)
05-23-2005 2:27 PM
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05-23-2005 2:22 PM


Does this not this open a bigger problem? Noah manages to breath steam and avoids being cooked alive (during the flood), THEN a giant rock hits the earth...
Was Noah maybe a Kryptonian?
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Message 36 of 304 (210629)
05-23-2005 2:27 PM
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05-23-2005 2:15 PM


Water again?
Well I'm postulating they hit in deep water. That changes the picture of debris and dust clouds, formulae notwithstanding.
Oh does it? Just how is that? How much energy from a 5 km wide asteroid will 5 km of water dissappate? How much steam will be released into the atmosphere. How big will the tsunami be and how far will it travel in an uninterupted world ocean?
Great. And it absolutely devastated the climate worldwide, right? Covered the whole earth in dust and debris, right? And killed most of the eyewitnesses, right?
Uh the tunkuska event was caused by one of the tiny, little dust specs things that come in very frequently. Things of only 100's of tons. Only the equivalent of about 1/100 of Barringer (or about 10 hiroshimas). These baby's occur about once every 100 years. These are not the ones we are talking about here.
But google it and get an idea of the size of this 'eensy teeny' comet did.
So far I haven't heard anything that supports the idea that they would necessarily wreck the atmosphere and kill all living things. Besides which, again, I'm postulating many occurred when the earth was covered by water.
No so far you have just been told what they do. If you do some googling you will find out what the big impactors do. And water doesn't help.

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Message 37 of 304 (210630)
05-23-2005 2:28 PM
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05-23-2005 2:23 PM


Hundreds of bolide impacts during the flood year would most certainly be noticed by someone floating about the ocean.
Maybe he noticed them then.

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arachnophilia
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Message 38 of 304 (210631)
05-23-2005 2:29 PM
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05-23-2005 2:24 PM


Re: Guessing?
The flood saturated everything down to bedrock. I figure the wet earth would keep down the dust and debris factor. To some extent that must be the case, certainly with the smaller ones. And if they impacted under water, all the more so.
making stuff up again, i see. still, these things VAPORIZE rock several hundred meter deep. water or not. water would be LESS resistance than rock.

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Message 39 of 304 (210632)
05-23-2005 2:31 PM
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05-23-2005 2:27 PM


Doesn't this open a bigger problem? If Noah survived breathing steam and being cooked alive (during the flood) THEN a giant rock hits the earth...
Was Noah maybe a Kryptonian?
Well he was a pretty strong old guy. He was 600 years old when the flood hit and he lived to be 950.

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arachnophilia
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Message 40 of 304 (210633)
05-23-2005 2:31 PM
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05-23-2005 2:27 PM


Was Noah maybe a Kryptonian?
no. meteors kill even superman, remember?

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Message 41 of 304 (210634)
05-23-2005 2:33 PM
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05-23-2005 2:29 PM


Re: Guessing?
making stuff up again, i see.
You should talk.
still, these things VAPORIZE rock several hundred meter deep. water or not. water would be LESS resistance than rock.
Uh huh, but the debris therefrom would be somewhat dissipated by the water, no?

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Message 42 of 304 (210635)
05-23-2005 2:34 PM
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05-23-2005 2:31 PM


yes but since a worldwide flood requires him to be able to resist the superheat that it would cause - it is slightly more than being a "pretty strong old guy"

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Message 43 of 304 (210636)
05-23-2005 2:34 PM
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05-23-2005 2:33 PM


Re: Guessing?
Uh huh, but the debris therefrom would be somewhat dissipated by the water, no?
no, not enough
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arachnophilia
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Message 44 of 304 (210637)
05-23-2005 2:35 PM
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05-23-2005 2:33 PM


Re: Guessing?
You should talk.
yes, i AM talking. and i'm saying that you're making up stuff again.
see, at least the sort of things i'm discussing are all backed by science and evidence. you can't even say the same for the bible. you're making up stuff to defend the bible in a COMPLETELY unbiblical fashion.
Uh huh, but the debris therefrom would be somewhat dissipated by the water, no?
you mean the water that's several thousand degrees?

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arachnophilia
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Message 45 of 304 (210638)
05-23-2005 2:36 PM
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05-23-2005 2:34 PM


it is slightly more than being a "pretty strong old guy"
heck, it's slightly more than superman.

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