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Author Topic:   Too Many Meteor Strikes in 6k Years
MangyTiger
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Message 116 of 304 (211012)
05-24-2005 11:48 PM
Reply to: Message 110 by Faith
05-24-2005 10:53 PM


There is some empirical data
In other words, your calculations refer to mere possibilities, nothing that has been observed EMPIRICALLY. You may or may not have anticipated all the variables. What are the odds that you have? Sure, science has the ability to predict many things but in this kind of case there is no way to test, replicate or falsify predictions such as yours, which has historically been the accepted approach to science. It can't be done in this kind of case, which makes your thoughts NONEMPIRICAL, simply hypothetical.
Yes and no. There has been a large planetary impact in recorded history, in fact it was in 1994. Fortunately the impact wasn't on Earth - it was on Jupiter when the fragments of comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 smashed into it.
Modeling has been done to try and predict what happened - and it was pretty much right (see here for a brief description). So we do actually have some data to check our models against - yes, I know Jupiter has a very different makeup to Earth but if we can model an impact on Jupiter why would you think we can't do it for here?
If you Google around at some of the calculations people have put on the Web such as here and here (start at page 55!) you can see the Ark is going to be in serious trouble.

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MangyTiger
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Message 119 of 304 (211017)
05-25-2005 12:10 AM


It's worse than that, we're all dead Jim
If the meteorites don't get you the supervolcanos will.
I lurk on the BBC Science Message Board (I only lurk 'cos it's pants compared to EvC ).
By coincidence somebody started a thread somwhat similar to this one two days ago. Their bogeyman was different though - instead of catastrophic meteor strikes they pointed out that if the YEC scenario is right all of the Supervolcano eruptions in the geological record must have happened in the last 6000 years.
It's suggested by scientists that Toba nearly killed us all off - if you add in the three Yellowstone eruptions and whatever others there have been and it's a miracle we've survived at all.
It's an even bigger miracle that these eruptions left no trace in human history, the tree rings, the ice cores... you get the picture
I don't want to drag this thread off topic but maybe we can talk about this extra difficulty once we've dealt with the meteorites.

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MangyTiger
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Message 156 of 304 (211343)
05-25-2005 11:29 PM
Reply to: Message 153 by DrJones*
05-25-2005 11:01 PM


Re: Not 6000 years, 4000.
It's amazing what kind of timbers those gophers have engineered.
You mean there's kinds of wood as well?
I'm struggling to learn the kinds that make up the animal kingdom (I've got dog, horse and cat down pat) and now you're telling me I've got to start learning wood kinds as well?

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MangyTiger
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Message 201 of 304 (211663)
05-27-2005 12:00 AM
Reply to: Message 192 by Faith
05-26-2005 11:28 PM


Re: This is not entirely the media's fault
Puhleeze try to pay closer attention. THIS WAS A PHOTO, not an artist's conception.
This is the article containing the PHOTO.
Now I want everbody to take a real close look at that picture that Faith claims is a real photo. In Message 162 she says:
By the way, before I proceed further: A photo accompanies this story that shows a huge splash of water in the ocean which is obviously supposed to suggest the impact of a meteorite. But I seriously doubt this is in fact a photo of an actual meteorite hit. Probably an undersea nuclear test? Or what? Is this kosher science not to identify the actual photo but let it suggest something it no doubt doesn't in fact represent?
Although there is no scale on the picture and no identifiable land mass you can see a fair chunk of the curvature of the Earth. That should tell you something - that splash is f***ing huge - I mean bigger than a mountain huge.
Although my brain isn't up to it thinking it through properly at the moment (it is nearly five in the morning here!) I suspect somebody who's good at hard sums should be able to make a very rough approximation of how big that splash is based on how much of the curve of the Earth is shown.
Then Faith can explain to us how somebody got a picture of whatever it is happening, how come nobody noticed it happening and how come there's anybody left alive to talk about it!

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MangyTiger
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Message 267 of 304 (211858)
05-27-2005 3:04 PM
Reply to: Message 262 by roxrkool
05-27-2005 2:43 PM


Re: No, not all in one year
I still think it is possible Faith is a very good troll and is deriving huge enjoyment out of getting people to reply to the risible stuff she is throwing out in such copious amounts.
It's an amusing ride either way

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