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Faith
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Message 46 of 300 (238335)
08-29-2005 3:36 PM


Request for moderation
See:

Thread No Gospel without Wrath etc, Post 100 and following post 101.

I have been struggling to keep this thread on topic. Paisano claims what I've called off topic is really on topic. I don't want to see it get off on all these side trips, but request moderator opinion.

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Message 47 of 300 (238344)
08-29-2005 4:19 PM


Posting images
I would like to use some images in the OP of a new thread but I also want them to be more permanent than I am willing to host myself. Is there any way to get some small images hosted on EvC?

Didn't know where better to ask this question.


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Message 48 of 300 (238347)
08-29-2005 4:31 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by Jazzns
08-29-2005 4:19 PM


Re: Posting images
Email them to Percy, he has kept images on site here before.
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Chiroptera
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Message 49 of 300 (238355)
08-29-2005 4:55 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by Jazzns
08-29-2005 4:19 PM


Re: Posting images
Use imageshack or photobucket. I have used imageshack before (use peek to see the urls of the images), and it seems to work alright. It's free, and doesn't require registration. Simply upload your image onto their site, and they will return the url of the image, to which you can link like any other image.

However, make sure you right it down -- without registration, there is no way to keep track of your images, so if you don't have the url of the image written down it will be lost forever.


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CK
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Message 50 of 300 (238580)
08-30-2005 12:20 PM


My turn as grass = IANO & Abortion thread
Even with the lower standards that we expect from creationists, Iano is quite clearly taking the piss in the way he is quote-mining me and my line of enquiry in the Abortion thread.

It starts here:

www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=14&t=983&m=67 -->www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=14&t=983&m=67">http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=14&t=983&m=67


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Message 51 of 300 (238595)
08-30-2005 1:04 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by CK
08-30-2005 12:20 PM


Re: My turn as grass = IANO & Abortion thread
I went back over the exchange and while I agree that iano is using quotes out of context to avoid dealing with the issue, I believe the bigger issue is that you failed to make clear what you were asking.

It appears that you are trying to get more information about the following quote.

While under a local anaesthetic{sic}, an epileptics scalp was lifted away and the cranium opened to allow the surgeon direct access to the brain. Using an electrical probe, he touched that part of the brain which made the right hand move. As the hand moved he said to the patient "You moved your right hand" The patient replied "No, you did" Evidently the mans(sic) self awareness was not directly related to the brain. The surgeon then directed the patient to will his hand not to move. The patient agreed to resist moving it in his mind and as the hand began to twitch due to the application of the electrical probe, the patients{sic} left hand reached over and stopped the right hand from moving. The physician could control the brain but the mind of the patient, which trancended{sic} the brain, moved the left hand to stop it.
The surgeon couldn't control the mind - only the brain

You never clearly asked iano to support that assertion and provide the details of the incident.

The quotation itself is of interest because it clearly shows the thinking and comprehension levels of the audience. Anyone who could accept such a quotation as being valid IS severely limited and does deserve extra cconsideration.


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Message 52 of 300 (238597)
08-30-2005 1:10 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by AdminJar
08-30-2005 1:04 PM


How is this unclear?
You said

quote:
You never clearly asked iano to support that assertion and provide the details of the incident.

In the thread I asked:

quote:
I cannot find any evidence for the example you have provided from the first book, so can you show us your example actually happened?

I also asked:

quote:
Yes and I found the reference but I cannot find any supporting evidence that the example presented is real. So I'm asking YOU to support your example (which is how we work here) - so do you have the name of the doctor who provided this "experiment"? The context in which it was performed? Any evidence at all that it happened?

The name of a doctor? a hospital? a study?


How is asking for the name of the doctor involved in the study or the location of the study or the name of the actual study being "unclear"?

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Message 53 of 300 (238602)
08-30-2005 1:18 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by CK
08-30-2005 1:10 PM


Re: My turn as grass = IANO & Abortion thread
You are expected to be able to make your questions understandable by the other person.

You needed to include the quote and tie your questions directly to that. Remember, you are speaking to someone who didn't simply fall down laughing at the absurdity of the quotation in the first place.


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Message 54 of 300 (238605)
08-30-2005 1:25 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by AdminJar
08-30-2005 1:18 PM


I honestly don't know how to respond to that..
What you seem to be insinuating is that Iano is slightly retarded and that we should all take into account.

I have no idea what has happened to this site but it is being increasingly clear that something has happened behind the scenes in regards to moderation.

I can see however that I am flogging a dead horse and will leave it there.

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Message 55 of 300 (238609)
08-30-2005 1:33 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by CK
08-30-2005 1:25 PM


Re: I honestly don't know how to respond to that..
What you seem to be insinuating is that Iano is slightly retarded and that we should all take into account.

Not at all. What I'm saying is that iano, if he accepted the quotation, has a fundamentally different view of evidence and possible conclusions than you do. To communicate, things have to be said in a manner that the listener can understand. I honestly believe that iano simply does not understand what you are asking. If you want to converse with him you need to try rephrasing things in a manner he can understand.


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Message 56 of 300 (238612)
08-30-2005 1:40 PM
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08-30-2005 1:25 PM


Re: I honestly don't know how to respond to that..
quote:
I have no idea what has happened to this site but it is being increasingly clear that something has happened behind the scenes in regards to moderation.

Well, with Moose gone, there is less moderation overall. Moose was the most active of the moderators, so since he only logs in occassionally this isn't a surprise.


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Message 57 of 300 (238623)
08-30-2005 2:22 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by AdminJar
08-30-2005 1:33 PM


This really had gone beyond a joke - he is now just straight out and out making up statements from me.

I guess he read this thread and you were "not clear" and he thought you were giving him a license to tell lies.


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Message 58 of 300 (238629)
08-30-2005 2:57 PM
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08-30-2005 2:22 PM


There is a network saying, that goes something like this:

Do not ascribe to malice what can be explained by ignorance or stupidity.
I think AdminJar is simply following that principle.


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arachnophilia
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Message 59 of 300 (238684)
08-30-2005 8:53 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by Nighttrain
08-28-2005 11:26 PM


Re: can one of you make this guy stop?
Hi, Arach, try Nighttrain`s Ten Ironclad Rules of Communication
Rule 1. Never debate a fool or a fanatic
Rules 2-10. Refer to Rule 1.:-P

or, since we talk about the bible a lot,

quote:
Pro 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

although i like the rebuttal too:

quote:
Pro 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.


אָרַח

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Message 60 of 300 (239486)
09-01-2005 10:51 AM


I will defend your (randman) right to...
I must confess that I'll slightly baffled to find myself making this post but my basic sense of fairness pushes me to...

Randman's banning from the science forums seems slightly vague - I am not suggesting that it is not deserved and I am not suggested a detailed breakdown of why must be presented, but it may be useful to at least reference a couple of threads so that other posters can get a better concept of why the ban has occured.


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