Evolution and Specialness of Humanity

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apparently this mechanism at the very least is flexible enough to allow such things as 'love' and 'altruism'.

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How?

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It's you who helped them, not god. How does it make you feel?

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You say this, with the theory of evolution assuming it is truly what happened. I gave scenario to how loveless earth would be through evolution, how meaningless. This is of course not how life is in real life.You just gave me the embarrassing kind of goosebumps. ugh lol

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You seem to be making some very bigoted assumptins about the goals and values of all non-believers. You quite clearly seem to assume that all of us care only about Social/Economic gain and nothing else.

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That is offensive and insulting.

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You misread yet again, I said the "social/economic agenda thing" to another poster who said something about it to me. I remember the viking avatar.

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That is offensive and insulting.

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Based upon the arguments from us in this thread? Is that what you are basing your notion upon?

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Common knowledge of Darwin's ideas, and how evolution evolved with discoveries. You make a lot of what I say into little personal accounts, really its about in general the mindset of evolutionists, or at least of their theory whether they realize it or not.

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Your selfrighteousness, arrogance and bigotry are amazing, simply breathtaking.

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I tried to give you an idea about how bad it would be if your accepted idea was actually true. Seems to have offended you, it's just evolution.

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It's too bad that you are so insecure that you need to feel more important than everything else in it or else you will crumble.

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Yeah, I'm in a little competition with my pets. Don't mind me.The last 2 sentences you wrote. I'm going off of how humans are to believed to have evolved "socially", human interaction actually helps the survival of the species within evolution. I know, I don't like it either.

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You may know of love, but refuse to understand it's apparent use within "evolution", and how truly fake it is there.

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Why is it fake?

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It's intentions of care and feeling behind them, become a mechanism for survival, and is felt no farther than beyond that. That's why I called it fake. It isn't as real as it should have been or really is; because of creation rather than evo.

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Who cares if it is the result of differential reproductive success or it was created by the a whimsical fiat of a magical being? Please explain to me why the one is better than the other.

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Creo:In the end what love I have shown to people is real, is about the moment, about me, and about anyone. The love means more to myself and the reciver/s. (excluding the creator for obvious reasons)Evo:In the end the love I have given is part of a series of social interaction to advance the species.

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you’ve actually been telling people that what they experience is not genuine because they don’t subscribe to your worldview.

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As realistic my scenario may have been, I meant only to tell through the eye of evolution, not in truth what exists for humanity, and for you and yours.I wrote

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Thanks, it’s always nice to be noticed .

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hahaha you are awesome!!!!!

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Is this what you are trying to say? Have I read your idea correctly?

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Yep, exactly. I want to apologize for the last comment, I tried to avoid it when it was brought up by other posters, but now that I have to face the music I have to say sorry about it. I can see how it was wrong of me to say that. I was trying to get a point across, but I did it in the wrong way.

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How do you tell the difference between a real feeling of love and a fake feeling of love? How do you tell the difference between a real feeling of love and a fake feeling of love?

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I used 'fake' as an adjective to describe the illusion that one's love is given as a mechanism for evolution. I used 'real' to describe a human's showing of care towards an individual, or multitudes of individuals as an act of genuine love, done for the moment, and for the individual/s. Not for the mechanism.

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What is life like in real life then? Do you see nothing when other people see on love?

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I see the world as it is, a world that is filled with genuine love. (genuine as described in schraf's reply) To say that this love was simply part of evolution's mechanical process would be an insult, and a total understatement, it would defile this love, I don't accept that as truth. I see the world as it is, a God-given wonder.

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Go back to evilbible.com. The only reality that I am "pulling down" is the false reality of your mind. Wait, not of your mind even, of a man's mind embedded in a textbook, unveiled for you to accept with all the physical evidence in the world, but what you lost is life, you lost anything worth anything at all when you accepted Charles' Idea, you lost your uniqueness, and you let it drain away, and here you are arguing against someone who sees really what is alive in the world, and what is truth. Someone who knows that their, AND your life is worth much more than your foolish and fabricated mechanisms, that you learned of and memorized, and believed whole-heartedly, a man's invention gives you a shabby purpose filled with competition of individuals, a virtual rat-race of species. Humanity loses all of it's value, and we become the organisms we can crush with a finger, we become souless, and we lose our dignity. Regain your dignity and honor as a human, and realize that we, You are important, and that you are unique. Life really isn't the way that you and the majority of humans see it, it has more meaning than that of a survival mechanism. Your love is not lost, it has become faded with doctrine.The above is egotistical, and if taken the wrong way, a personal attack. But the above is gladly not what really exists, the above is what exists in the mind of evolution, what has distorted the views of many here among us.

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It excludes life on earth.

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To understand the TOE, humanity is involved, God would not give a world of competitive strife and struggle.

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/This message has been edited by prophex, 10-13-2005 06:27 PMstrife and struggle in an evolutionary sense was what i meant to say i guessyou got me there.This message has been edited by prophex, 10-13-2005 06:29 PMThis message has been edited by prophex, 10-13-2005 06:29 PM

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and why is that reason better than it being evolved?

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Love can't evolve.

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The incoherent distortion of what I believe summed up in the above is simply an insult carrying no argument, just some old guy pissed because of his beliefs. It's not a big deal, the world isn't one like the world of your accepted idea, don't fret.The way you think disturbs me. Who taught you about me and my religion? I feel sorry for you. I really don't know why you posted about slavery, rape, and murder in your post, doesn't seem to pertain to anything besides the mind of you.

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Don't believe science. We don't mind. You don't have anything to contribute to it anyway.

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Science appears to be your God, the world has become your saviour.This message has been edited by prophex, 10-13-2005 06:26 PM

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Seeing through the glasses of evolution, we can understand both love and the exact opposite.

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Through evolution true love simply is non-existant.

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