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Author Topic:   Death before the 'Fall'?
Yaro
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Message 62 of 230 (275348)
01-03-2006 1:50 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by jaywill
01-03-2006 1:47 PM


Re: Death before the fall...
Why don't you open up a thread and explain why it takes more faith to believe that lions ate veggies then to believe an ape one day gave birth to a human?
He, nor has any scientist, ever made that claim.
Why don't you open up a thread and defend those incredibly ignorant statements suggesting that readers of the Bible think dentists are not necessary, farmers should farm, scientists should not do science, and God is out to deceive everyone?
Huh? The Bible has nothing to do with science, and therefore Ifen was OT an so are we for that matter.
You could also show demonstrate how you can lump all Bible belief along with every form of superstition as you implied.
The Bible is loaded with superstition. Would you like to discuss this jaywill? I will open up a thread for it if you so desire. Please say yes/no.

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Yaro
Member (Idle past 6526 days)
Posts: 1797
Joined: 07-12-2003


Message 64 of 230 (275386)
01-03-2006 3:31 PM
Reply to: Message 63 by jaywill
01-03-2006 3:12 PM


Re: Death before the fall...
You probably make the claim. It is only that you attempt to soften the implication by saying that it happened over millions of years. Somehow the thought of slow gradualism will soften the premise. And the premise is that something non-human gave birth to a human. Long time is used to make it seem more plausible that a man descended from an ape.
All together now "YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND EVOLUTION!"
Okay,Okay, in all the pictures that scientists have artists draw for them, the ancestral creature LOOKS like an ape. So there.
1) Artists are not scientists.
2) It didn't happen "one day".
3) Gradualism is the only explanation and if you don't like it I'm sorry. How do you suppose we went from wolf to Chihuahua? hint: Gradualism.
When you take away all the padding of millions of years and imagined intermediate stages of Homo this and homo that and homo the other, what do you have basically? A non-human had to one day give birth to a human.
Nope. A population changed over time. Again Wolf -> Chihuahua. It happened, we did it. Little steps along the way. No reason we can't streatch the same thing over millions of years.
You can do what you want Yaro.
Oh, thank you.
I plan to open up a thread on the biblical teaching about what the effects of unbelief and rejection of God are on the normal function of the mind. Maybe we can kick some of it around there.
That actually sounds like a very fun topic. Please open it. If you want a GD I'm game.
I plan to call it something like "The Effects of Unbelief in God on the Mind" from the standpoint of the Bible's own statements about the matter.
Sure. Sounds like fun.

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