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Faith 
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Message 292 of 302 (277145)
01-08-2006 12:24 PM
Reply to: Message 290 by crashfrog
01-08-2006 12:18 PM


It has absolutely nothing in common with fiction. They are written as history.
Sorry, you are wrong. The obvious historicity of the gospel accounts has MADE most believers.
This always comes down to a war of sensibilities and interpretations as there is NO objective evidence for any of it.
God decided to make it all a matter of belief, trusting in the credibility of the reports, having the ear to hear, and not in the kinds of evidence the world demands.
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Faith 
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Message 296 of 302 (277152)
01-08-2006 12:35 PM
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01-08-2006 12:29 PM


They were preoccupied with the lives of the Caesars and the military campaigns all over the Empire, why should they bother about an itinerant preacher in Judea?
See this is why I didn't want to argue this topic at all. It doesn't matter what anyone says. What convinces you I find absolutely ludicrous, and vice versa.
There is simply no ground for having a discussion about these things. The "scholars" will just go on and on and on weaving their revisionist tales, and the traditionalists will continue to believe what we've always believed and use the arguments we always use.

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Faith 
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Message 300 of 302 (277159)
01-08-2006 12:40 PM
Reply to: Message 287 by jar
01-08-2006 12:05 PM


Re: mythicist imaginative speculative revisionism
Sure. His family was actually quite prominent, a small regional nobility family. His ministry lasted several orders of magnitude longer than that of Jesus. The documentation and evidences for the Buddha are far greater than for Jesus. And it's all Off Topic.
My impression has always been and still is that it was his followers who wrote about him and otherwise there is no historical evidence for him.
As for the historicity of Jesus, Christianity doesn't need the evidence, we have it; I don't need the information myself, I know he was historical and I consider the evidence abundant. Skeptics raise these doubts based on their own imaginations, but there is no new objective evidence for any of their doubts, it's all a matter of interpretation.

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Faith 
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Message 301 of 302 (277160)
01-08-2006 12:41 PM


Last note to Percy
I don't see what a thread on dating would accomplish. All of this is based on interpretation, not on any clash of facts.
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