Is it 'boring' being God?

Not so that he might care or notice. However it does mean that that king's greatness is by definition not infinite. You said he cannot misjudge his own greatness, how can he get angry with someone unless he feels his own greatness may actually be less than he originally thought? That's the problem with pride. It can get hurt and then one retaliates. But it can't be hurt if it is in perspective.

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holmes
"What you need is sustained outrage...there's far too much unthinking respect given to authority." (M.Ivins)

I understand what you're saying, I'm just asking how it would make him non-infinite who said he would get angry? sorry if you understood me to say that

I already explained this. You get one more time. Infinite means without bounds, all encompassing, not one thing in existence which is not contained. Great (unless you simply mean size) refers to being extremely popular, charismatic. So infinite greatness would mean their is no possible way that one could be greater. If even one person says you are not great, then by definition you are not infinitely great because you are not boundlessly popular and influential. You could be greater still if that person thought you were great and would do what you said. You said he punished people, I assumed he was angry. In the Bible God describes himself as angry and jealous.

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holmes
"What you need is sustained outrage...there's far too much unthinking respect given to authority." (M.Ivins)

I wasn't replying to you

actually you didn't explain how it worked, you just sayed that by definition he wouldn't be infinite.I've never heard of great being refered to automatically as popular before. I am not talking about God being popular I am talking about God being powerful, filled with glory, that kind of great. popularity has nothing to do with Gods greatness. aaaaand? he will be angry when we disobey him, he is jealous when we worship* a peice of wood (tv, money, ...) because we should worship him. I really don't see how this pertains to your previous post though. And thats why God doesn't get hurt.in this case means "give your life to"*

Well I'm getting bored... Yes I did, you just don't seem to want to understand or are incapable of understanding. I'll stop pounding my ahead against your wall after this final blow. Powerful? How can a God have infinite power if a person is able to hate him and not obey him? Glory? Still not sure why that is not similar to popular, but let's say it is different. Wouldn't God be still more glorious if every single person loved him so much they'd obey his every command without question? Why would this anger him or make him jealous if he understands that this does not affect him whatsoever? That's like you getting mad that an ant didn't do exactly what you wanted. You just said he gets angry and jealous... that is the way I was using "hurt".Not sure if you are a troll or a sincere sophist, but I've lost interest.

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holmes
"What you need is sustained outrage...there's far too much unthinking respect given to authority." (M.Ivins)

whatever, its not even worth discussing we can disobey him because we have free will, he can stop us but he won't, its like the difference between a slave and someone who serves you because they love you. popularity has NOTHING to do with any aspect of a person, its how much you are liked. Glory is actually how amazing you are. Being glorious can help you to be popular but you can be a total moron and still be popular. popularity is opinion, glory is fact. no he would not (see above), he would be happier and so would we but it would not affect his glory in the least when we obey him we glorify him, he deserves to be glorified. Yes but God notices us more than we would notice that ant. just because we are ignorant doesn't mean he is he would not get hurt directly from any insult. but he would get mad at the fact that we are lying.

Uh-huh, pay close attention now... From your own words, when we obey we glorify, or give him glory. Thus when a person chooses not to obey less glory is given. That means he is NOT as glorious or glorified as he COULD be. And thus he is not infinitely glorious, or great.Really this is very simple.

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holmes
"What you need is sustained outrage...there's far too much unthinking respect given to authority." (M.Ivins)

hehe, sorry you misunderstood me. When we glorify him we don't suply his glory. Basically we tell him he is glorious.yes, yes it is simple

He gives us life...and in essence He gives us the love and the glory that we return to Him. We are in Communion and He is as glorious as He can be since there is nothing that can detract from His glory.
When we choose not to be in communion, that makes US less than we COULD be...it has nothing to do with an infinite source.

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Gradually it was disclosed to me that the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either, but right through every human heart, and through all human hearts. This line shifts. Inside us, it oscillates with the years. Even within hearts overwhelmed by evil, one small bridgehead of good is retained; and even in the best of all hearts, there remains a small corner of evil. --Alexander Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago

What makes him glorious? What qualities make this up? You keep shifting away from reaching a definition of what makes up this greatness of God.

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holmes
"What you need is sustained outrage...there's far too much unthinking respect given to authority." (M.Ivins)

He is ultimately glorious and nothing can detract from his glory. What does this mean when I can't get a meaningful answer of what constitutes this "greatness" or "glory".As far as I can tell he is goshgillyiscious which is some quality that has no meaning. It has nothing to do with whether he is loved or works to earn love. And this quality is exampled by him sitting around looking at a mirror of himself, admiring this quality and lashing out at those which do not recognize it.Like I said this is getting boring. If its going to be this circular track lets drop it. The stated nature of God with its vague quality does seem boring to me, and I can't imagine a God I would admire not being bored with it. As I was trying to point out initially, if a human engaged in the same activities, that person would be considered dull, slothful, and vain.

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holmes
"What you need is sustained outrage...there's far too much unthinking respect given to authority." (M.Ivins)

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As far as I can tell he is goshgillyiscious which is some quality that has no meaning.

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I get the same feeling when I try to get Christians to explain to me how they know there is an absolute standard for morality and ethics, and that this God is a perfect exemplar for this standard.

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"Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt

I can only explain it to you both in human terms, since you do not share the understanding (or perception) that I do.
Say thata man had an Aunt whom he considered a Saint. He told us of the life that she led, which was exemplory. She helped many less fortunate than herself and she cared for her ill husband, and she never wanted anyone to pay much attention to her and etc etc...You may say, "sounds like a remarkable person, but I would hardly call her flawless!" Why do we have a "bullshit" detector that causes us to be skeptical of anyone...be they Deity or be they Diva...of being perfect and flawless?1) Because we know human nature. We have seen many examples of deception and flawed analogies.2) Because we know that we ourselves are not perfect--therefore--how could anyone else be perfect.One thing is for certain, IMHO, as pertains to THIS topic:God will never be bored as long as He observes some of the human characters that I know of voicing their opinions and weaving their theories! You know how people create fishtank environments and spend hours watching the characters of the individual fish?Perhaps God observes humanity in a somewhat similar way. (again, since I do not know exactly how His perspective would be, I cannot comment fully!

But the Bible does exactly the same, it frequently gives God human characteristics.Maybe there's a reason why I put the word boring in inverted commas. But we have to try, or no one would have an inkling. No, I think the question should be: what is the point in God existing? He didn't, humans created God and all His imperfections.Brian.