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DominionSeraph
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Message 117 of 148 (308902)
05-03-2006 8:50 PM


Somebody inject 2ice_baked_taters with heroin, k?
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DominionSeraph
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Message 119 of 148 (308908)
05-03-2006 9:02 PM
Reply to: Message 118 by AdminJar
05-03-2006 8:52 PM


Re: Not in very good taste
Opiates have been studied in-depth. Can you think of a better example with which to invalidate his claim that his mind's functions aren't physical?

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DominionSeraph
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Message 133 of 148 (311543)
05-12-2006 6:50 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by 2ice_baked_taters
02-23-2006 2:21 AM


I think it's time for me to start from the beginning.
2ice_baked_taters writes:
The laws of physics do not recognize the force of me.
The laws of physics don't have the capacity to recognize anything.
Anthropomorphizing the laws of physics ain't exactly a good start.
2ice_baked_taters writes:
I affect the world around me on a daily basis in some very unique and unpredictable ways.
My boredom is pretty predictable.
2ice_baked_taters writes:
I am a force that does things at will and in many ways not according to any known physical laws.
The latter can be said for any piece of software.
2ice_baked_taters writes:
In fact it can be said that the force that is “us” generates it’s own set of changing laws called beliefs.
...generates them based on many factors.
And I don't know why you'd call a belief a law.
"I believe that I own a Suzuki Bandit 1200S."
That doesn't meet any definition of "law."
2ice_baked_taters writes:
The force that is us succumbs to these laws both by coercion of other similar forces and our choice.
Ok, so who's doing the believing, and who's doing the succumbing?
2ice_baked_taters writes:
By obeying these laws we in turn can have a profound and unpredictable effect on the physical world.
Try generating that effect now.
2ice_baked_taters writes:
In effect, our changing Laws can become a force and in turn, affect the physical world in unpredictable ways according to the laws of physics. In addition to this we as individual forces can choose to act against the very laws we generate.
"Clean-up on aisle 4!"
2ice_baked_taters writes:
Perhaps thinking of us in terms of an energy force will allow science to have a better glimpse at that which is “us”.
Thinking of you as software works just fine.
2ice_baked_taters writes:
I find this perspective interesting
You wouldn't have posted it if you found it boring.
Completely unsurprising.
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DominionSeraph
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Message 134 of 148 (311550)
05-12-2006 6:59 PM
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05-06-2006 11:52 AM


2ice_baked_taters writes:
I am have and been applying a force in a very real sense.
Your responses are stimuli to us, which we in turn respond to.

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