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Do we affect the" physical " indepentent of the laws of physics

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melatonin
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03-05-2006 5:24 PM 		Reply to: Message 28 by 2ice_baked_taters
03-05-2006 4:52 PM

Or any other feeling we experience for that matter.
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Feeling of fear...
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I perceive a bear running at me, a threat. A fast response has already passed to the amygdala, and via the hypothalamus, results in activity in the autonomic NS causes a release of noradrenaline/adrenaline increasing attention and preparation for flight. Furthermore, the amygdala activates the HPA axis (stress response). The feeling of fear is the conscious awareness of this adaptive emotional biological state. The glucocorticoids and NAd/Ad released by the HPA axis will ensure I remember this event in the future and maybe not go into the woods without a big gun. Hopefully, I run...
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melatonin
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03-06-2006 6:27 AM 		Reply to: Message 32 by 2ice_baked_taters
03-05-2006 9:31 PM

oh noes...
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conscious awareness = information that is reportable enabling voluntary response, IOW enters working memory (i.e. not subliminal/implicit/unconscious)
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I = an individual
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fear = biological response to primary or secondary (associated with primary through conditioning) reinforcers that are a threat to well-being
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'Hopefully' was an indication that the best option is to run - however freezing and fighting are other possibilities. So, you make a decision. In that case, 'for' 'at' 'this' also weren't scientific...
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Look into the psychological literature, emotion and its processes are well defined...
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melatonin
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03-08-2006 7:37 AM 		Reply to: Message 38 by 2ice_baked_taters
03-07-2006 7:22 PM

The laws of physics do not recognize the force of me. My physical body though, must obey them so I must succumb to them in that context.
I affect the world around me on a daily basis in some very unique and unpredictable ways.
I am a force that does things at will and in many ways not according to any known physical laws. In fact it can be said that the force that is “us” generates it’s own set of changing laws called beliefs. The force that is us succumbs to these laws both by coercion of other similar forces and our choice. By obeying these laws we in turn can have a profound and unpredictable effect on the physical world. In effect, our changing Laws can become a force and in turn, affect the physical world in unpredictable ways according to the laws of physics. In addition to this we as individual forces can choose to act against the very laws we generate.
Perhaps thinking of us in terms of an energy force will allow science to have a better glimpse at that which is “us”.
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yeah, I illustrated your original point...
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melatonin
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06-12-2006 7:50 PM 		Reply to: Message 136 by 2ice_baked_taters
06-12-2006 4:22 AM

Re: Definition of Force
A measurement of love or any other emotion is meaningless and unatainable
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depends what measurement and emotion you mean. I can show a person a series of stimuli and can measure their subjective responses on scales of emotion. I can also gain more objective measures using EEG, fMRI, PET, SCR, EMG and find that the subjective will correlate with the objective.
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