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ramoss

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Message 67 of 148 (294648)
03-12-2006 7:08 PM

Reply to: Message 66 by Son Goku
03-12-2006 6:25 PM

I don't know if the human mind can be totally understood by science. However, I am sure that being able to reproduce the workings of the mind artifically might be possible. We might not understand WHY a decision making algorythem becomes 'intellgent' and 'self aware'.. but I would not be surprised if we could mimic it artifically. We might never do so.
If we can't.. that is just a lack of our cleverness.

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Message 130 of 148 (310298)
05-08-2006 1:14 PM

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05-08-2006 12:09 PM

Re: Definition of Force

Hum. It seems that f=ma IS defining it.

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Message 138 of 148 (320737)
06-12-2006 9:04 AM

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06-12-2006 4:22 AM

Re: Definition of Force

This is a completely false statement. We understand all the motivations that bring meaning to this existance. It is the meaning that shapes us yet the source for all that is meaningful, that which gives us reason to act and exist is scientifically undefinable and unmeasurable. A measurement of love or any other emotion is meaningless and unatainable

Do we? What is the motivation that brings meaning to this existance? And talk about 'IT is meaning that shapes us yet is the source of all that is meanignful'. Talk about a cirucular defination. THat statement HAS no meaning.

You make the statement. Now, find a meaningful way to describe how we understand how things are meaningful.

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Message 147 of 148 (321253)
06-13-2006 8:29 PM

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06-12-2006 5:39 PM

Re: Definition of Force

This is a completely false statement. We understand all the motivations that bring meaning to this existance. It is the meaning that shapes us yet, the source for all that is meaningful, that which gives us reason to act and exist, that remains scientifically undefinable and unmeasurable. A scientific measurement of love or any other emotion is meaningless and unatainable under the scope of current scientific knowledge.

We do?? What are the motivations that bring meaning to this existance?
Do you understand it? What is the source?

You can make claims about the 'motivations', you can make claims about the 'source'. That might be what you believe. That is just your interpretation and your belief. It has no 'Meaning' outside of you.

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