Do we affect the" physical " indepentent of the laws of physics

The only forces that exist in the universe is the strong force, weak force, electromagnetic force and gravitational force. All that exist in the universe is manifested by these. Nature is mysterious enough without introducing new "forces" into the equation imo.

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"One is punished most for ones virtues" Fredrick Neitzche

Hi tater,
The forces of nature are those that bind atoms,quarks and the force of electromagatism and gravity. Some how the emergence of matter and energy has become sentient to the point of comptemplating it's own existance in the form of human beings.There is a element of randomness in the universe which prevades reality on a level that escapes sciences ability to predict. But there is also a element of order and predictabilty which allows for matter and energy to go from entrophy to order and order to entrophy. The ultimate recycler of the most sublime.Everything that exist is a part of a whole. The brain, the mind, the iron in your redblood cells, the glucose in your body, the plants that produced it, the light from the sun.All of it a cascade of phenomenon that allow for existance of something rather than nothing. How can one say that they are divorce of this system. It is impossible to step outside of the mosaic of what the cosmos is composed of. You are but a product of those forces, and the choices you make, your freewill, your soul, your mind a natural property of the universe. Call it God, call it nature. We ultimately must be recycled back into this system from whence we came.

And..??? so...??? What am I to gather from this statement? You call your shoes taters or shoes? Physics is a science of definitions. One can not make up they're own definition and expect to be taken seriously. The mind is the illusion of a thinker behind the thought or self that is the result of electrical activity and sensorium of the nuerological systems in concious sentient organisms. It is totally dependant on that system that consists in part of protiens, glucose, as well as the force of electromagnitism and the other forces of nature that manifests reality. Bullshit. Dont try and do a Texas backstep on this. You are composed of atoms. The atoms that make up the thing you think is you are occupying space on this planet, which is orbiting a star that supplys the energy and light that allows you to exist. Without those things there would be no YOU and hence no mind, soul, or what ever you care to call it.

Fg=Gm A mB / r2
mA mB = mA X mB
W=Fg
1/r2=1/rxr
Pt=stV=tG
G=9.8m/s2
*nevermind.*edited again to correct 2ice_baked_tater's quoteThis message has been edited by 1.61803, 03-14-2006 10:43 AMThis message has been edited by 1.61803, 03-14-2006 12:33 PM

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"One is punished most for ones virtues" Fredrick Neitzche

When he farts he succeeds in clearing the room of people. Hence the force the is he does indeed manipulates events in reality. edit spelling.This message has been edited by 1.61803, 03-14-2006 03:25 PM