Intelligent Design explains many follies

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This is known as a false dichotomy. There could be an completely unintelligent designer. There could be any number of partly intelligent designers.

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Only if there were no God, of the type, say, the US has claimed to believe in. His creating things eliminates other possiblities. 100%. You have your beliefs, John 10:10 has his.Edited by whisper, : No reason given.

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This may be, but then both of you should be posting in the Faith and Belief forum, and not the science forum.

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I had said to someone that he had his beliefs, and this John had his, mine never entered the picture. Try to focus.

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It most certainly does not. Even if He did create some things, to jump to conclusion that He has created EVERYTHING (which would rule our other possibilities), is a little hasty.

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Sorry to join in this so late. I should probably go back and address the opening post before continuing.

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No, not if we ware talking the God of the bible, we can say that. In this case that happens to be the majority God in question as well. Fancy that.

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Science must deal with things that can be proven to a high degree of certainty over time with repeatable results, not with theories that can never be proven in their entirety.

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Gosh, you're gonna spoil their fun.

Maybe we can add ID to the long list of things that aren't science. Why, does it claim to be science?

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Interesting. John 10-10 is banned and you are answering for him.

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I am? I thought I was speaking for myself. Oh well, maybe I should change my forum name to 'defender of the weak', or some such.

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Logically false.

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You could have 10 deities creating 10 different things, and this would not suddenly require 9 deities and their creations to dissappear in a puff of green smoke and mirrors.

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Maybe in your head in the land of make believe! Not in the real world, and in the land of the majority God in question. That is beyond your power to question. Far beyond.

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And one of us uses logic with no conflicts with all the evidence around us, while the other denies the reality in front of him

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Thank you for that. It takes a big man to admit that. God bless you.Edited by whisper, : No reason given.

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I erred, I will admit. I should not have included you in my post.

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Thank you.

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If you are talking the God of the Bible, then I would suppose you are right

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Thanks again.

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And another thing, on your other point about the U.S. and what they have claimed to believe in. You make this statement as if all people in the U.S. believe in the same thing, and in the same God... when we most certainly do not!

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Look up 'majority', and see how it difers from 'all people'.

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Also, instead of trying to make your posts wordy and make yourself sound smart, you would be better understood if you were simply concise and to-the-point with what you're saying.

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OK, I'll try to use baby english.

"You could have 10 deities creating 10 different things, and this would not suddenly require 9 deities and their creations to dissappear in a puff of green smoke and mirrors."

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Ad hominem - attacking the person and not the message - logical fallacy.

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Afraid not. There is no way to pull deities out of anywhere else. when it comes to what the bible talks about. It has the one creator. Saying others you dream up might exist doesn't come from the God of the majority of the US. Call it illogical and a fallacy if you like. Empty words. Empty reason.

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And of course ignoring the fact that I did question it. Simply and directly ... with no consequences implied or otherwise ...

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No idea what you are talking about.

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Better try "some such" as "Defender of the Weak" doesn't fit.

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Actually, john is not just weak on this thread, apparently he is dead.

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Predictable tripe. I've demonstrated both your and John 10-10's logical failings, feel free to demonstrate mine.

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OK. You have actually demondtrated nothing at all! Sorry that is news to you. Is this why you haunt threads where the party you are responding to can't talk back? ha.

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You did say "majority" in another post..

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Thank you.