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RickJB
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Message 162 of 306 (313423)
05-19-2006 3:25 AM
Reply to: Message 155 by Faith
05-18-2006 5:45 PM


faith writes:
That's a very succinct accounting of the situation from the science-minded instrumentalist point of view. From that point of view it appears there is no other point of view. Sex is completely divorced from its cultural and moral historical framework and treated as nothing but a biological phenomenon and physical health issue.
That's absolutely not true. All sex ed clases will have education about cultural and personal conduct along with the purely biological processes.
So what exactly do you object to?

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RickJB
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Message 165 of 306 (313428)
05-19-2006 4:05 AM
Reply to: Message 163 by Silent H
05-19-2006 3:31 AM


holmes writes:
That's not true.
Yes it is. I was taught as such fifteen years ago when I was in school. I please note that I said "personal and cultural issues" and NOT "morals", which bring religious implications.
Of course it was a western paradigm.
Relationships, marriage, divorce, sexuality, peer pressure. The thrust of the content was to engender self-respect and the respect of others with regard to the above.
Certainly it wasn't the be-all-and-end-all, but the intent was there!
Edited by RickJB, : Tags.

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RickJB
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Message 168 of 306 (313435)
05-19-2006 5:02 AM
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05-19-2006 4:25 AM


**Sigh**
Holmes, I just made the observation that attempts to meld the both the scientific and the cultural HAVE been made.
I have no further interest in dissecting this with you.
Edited by RickJB, : No reason given.

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RickJB
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Message 182 of 306 (313499)
05-19-2006 10:46 AM
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05-19-2006 8:38 AM


I'm not going to argue with you because I agree with much of what you say!!
I was simply making the point that sex ed is not always a science-only proposition, for better or for worse. Save your energy for another poster.

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RickJB
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Message 282 of 306 (315239)
05-26-2006 5:14 AM
Reply to: Message 278 by Silent H
05-25-2006 4:48 AM


Re: Attempt at a complete outline of my position
More brevity and less nitpicking would really improve the clarity of your arguments, Holmes.

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