Is anyone else fed up with Muslims complaining all the time?

Is anyone else becoming a little bit fed up with either opening a newspaper or turning on the radio to find Muslims moaning about something?Almost every day we are hearing something else that they aren’t happy with. Cartoons of Muhammad, and now the misunderstanding of the Popes speech are just a couple of examples.But, they do not just complain, they riot in the streets and now they fire bomb churches because of the pope’s speech?Why can’t they complain in a reasonable way and ask the Pope to explain the context of his speech?Why do they think that violence is the answer to everything?Let’s be honest here, if Christians, or any other religious group were planning to take bombs aboard planes in a predominantly Muslim country their authorities wouldn’t be as lenient as the British general public. You can guarantee that every Christian would be attacked and not just the ones involved in the hypothetical scenario.No, I for one am becoming pissed off with the reaction of Muslims throughout the world, they claim to be a peaceful religion, yet what is the first thing they do when they think they see something controversial about their faith? Is it to discuss what they find offensive? No, it is immediately to riot and threaten others.Muslims quietly discuss the pope’s speech. Even the children become involved. Could we please speak to the pope so he can explain the context of his speech to us? We have a very peaceful faith. We are so peaceful that you do not need to protect your churches. Religion has spoiled our planet.Religion has wasted our lives.Because of religion no one is safe.Religion will bring about the premature death of our planet.Religious types are all as bad as each other, but, just lately I am becoming a bit sick of Muslims complaining about everything.These Muslims need to get a life and realise that what a dopey old guy in a dress says makes no difference to their lives.Brian.

I dunno. Ghandi's ahimsa achieved a lot as did MLK's non violent protests. Yes, we are more reserved here.But some American Christians are not exactly wired up right. Even here at EvC we see examples of them.But, I am just becoming bored with their complaining and the way they go about it.If someone said they hated the Scots for some reason it really wouldn't bother me, I certainly wouldn't be screaming about in the streets about it.The thing is, it is the people who do not follow a God that are caught up in all the bull.Brian.

Could be.Muslim societies are much more prone to violence that secular or Christian?

The violence would have been much more prevalent if the protesters had hadn;t been instructed not to fight.King knew that fighting back would cause resentment even if equal rights were grnated. he aid as much when the Godl Coast was liberated, which was another non-violent victory.brian.

To me it just appears as the natural way for many Muslims to react. It is like every time something that they imagine is anti-islam they go nuts.They are giving Islam a bad name, and the so-called 'real' Muslims are not exactly quick at condemning them.If they feel that their religion is under attack theologically, then they are playing into the hands of the attackers.Brian.

Damn tooting! And it isn't like me to complain. This is why I know that things must be bad. If only.Brian.

No I don't. Of course it can, and I know its a minority group of Muslims that are involved. The thing is I am bored to tears of their moaning all the time about something or other. I mean, so what if an old cross dresser quotes a 14th century emperor, who cares? See, this is another thing I am pissed off at. The Muslims who say that these people are not representing mainstream Islam are not exactly tackling the issue with the same vigour. Tony Blair has asked the Muslim councils to recognise that they have a part to play in condemning the extremists, but I don't see or hear widespread condemnation from other Musilms. This is inaccurate. Who were the gentiles in the Bible for example? Who are the Harijans in Hinduism? Groups have been isoloated and denegrated for centuries before Muhammad was born. And many Christian groups have also despised the Jews. I certainly think they could have a more civil approach to non-Muslims. The very name now is becoming synonymous with violence, and the civil Muslims don't seem to be that bothered about it.There have been many Muslims arrested in the UK this year, most have been plotting terrorist attacks or know something about it. many of these people meet at Mosques up and down the country, and I refuse to believe that many muslims do not know who the extremeists are amongst them. Yet they say nothing to the authorities.Brian.

I am an atheist RR, I cannot blame God for anything.The world is a mess, the world will end prematurely, and religion is to blame.The nutty God squads have ruined the planet for us normal people.Brian.

Once again we have a Muslim moaning his ass off.John Reid's speech was interupted by Abu Izzadeen, an animal who praised the 7/7 attacks.Abu is a member of Al-Ghurabaa, a group that is banned in the UK, so why is he running around stirring things up?If Abu isn't happy with life in Britain, then he can feck off to Pakistan or somewhere where his extremism is acceptable.What is wrong with these people?Abu was a Christian, he converts to Islam and turns into a nutcase.Brian.

Why are my examples not legitimate news stories? I think it is because the incidents are becoming more numerous, plus it is obviously a 'hot topic' at the moment.Remember we are just over a very 'near miss' in the UK, all our airports were at a standstill and we have apparently foiled quite a few other plots by Islamic terrorists in the UK.I know they are a small minority of the muslim population, but they are becoming more prominent evry day.It is a fact that every day there are more news reports of Muslims complaining about this or that. They complain about their standard of life in the UK, they moan that they are picked on by the police to be questioned and searched purely because they are Muslim. What they fail to realise it is because the ONLY terrorist acts in the UK in the near past and the biggest threat to us today is from people claiming to be Muslims. They fit the profile so the police are duty bound to search them. If we had a spate of attacks by say people with ginger hair, then how can people with ginger hair be surprised that they are being stopped by the police?On that matter, shouldnt the peaceful Muslims be more angry at the violent Muslims who are getting Islam a bad name, and not target their anger on the police? Sure it is possible. I don't have enough information to make that call. However, it is not impossible that he converted to Islam, then became a nutter. One of the 7/7 bombers had only been a Muslim for 6 months! Did they?Brian.

Okay, so you obviously aren't the one taking the critical thinking course, so you must be the mini-Hovind one.That you do not think that atheism takes much thought just shows your inability to think.Brian.

He is someone that you are going to end up like. A mini Kant?????More like a silly kant.Jesus, you have brightened up my day, that was so funny. Sure.I also know enough about him to know that he would have never said anything as silly as:The thought that some believe that atheism is on a sort of higher plane of thinking is sickening.

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Not suggesting I loathe it, just that it doesn't take much thought.He took time to think about what he was actually saying.Mini Kant, lol dear God in heaven.I need to lie down, my sides have just split.brian.Do you know who that is?

I thought you knew that.Yes I don't BELIEVE because there is no way to test for this thing called God. Well, not quite everything, but for the immediate dangers that our world faces I do. It is certain that religion will bring about the premature death of our planet. I have no way of telling. What we can comment on is the facts that we have, and the facts demonstrate that religion is essentially evil.Look at the last time Christianity led the world, it led us straight into the dark ages. We are animals. Intelligence has a part to play. I think we are more intelligent than most animals.But they things you mention occur because of religion too.Look at Israel's murdering of innocent Palestinians over the last 5 decades, that is about territory.What did King David do for a piece of ass? Sent a good friend to certain death wasn't it? When the prophecies were written it appeared at the time that the world was going to end. 2000 years later we are still waiting. People invented religion, people invented God, so of course they are to blame. I don't recall seeing any atheist suicide bombers recently. I don't see atheists crying because some old guy quoted an old text.The fact is, religious people have a little bit missing, they have a want about them, a fear of responsibility, a fear of thefuture. They need a little father figure in the sky to look after them.The sad thing is, these crackpots are killing the world that belongs to us all. We atheists are innocent bystanders in a struggle between people who cannot prove a single thing about their faiths, we athiests are losing our world, and our children's world to people who are ending it because of a few fairytales.It is so very very sad.A wonderful, beautiful world, that will die because the majority believe something MIGHT be true.Brian.

Not that I am aware of.Al the atheits I know of don't give a rats ass about what the Pope says or thinks. I also havent seen a front page with any headline about athiests complaning about anything.I think our reaction to the religious people is one of bemusement rather than complaining. Why should we care about what some old nutter thinks of us? This is what I am essentially saying about Muslims, whay should they give a sh*t about what other people think about their religion? Maybe to you they do, but I have never heard an athiest complaining about what any religious leader says about them. In fact, we are more likely to laugh than complain.Brian.

Faith you have trouble understanding most things, yet you appear to be more of an expert on every subject here at EvC than the people who do understand.Brian.