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Author Topic:   The Bible was NOT man made, it was Godly made
sidelined
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Message 186 of 320 (425750)
10-03-2007 11:27 PM
Reply to: Message 178 by gen
10-03-2007 11:05 PM


gen
'Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophets own interpretation. For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.' -2 Peter 1:20-21
I am curious as to how the author of those words would know that was the case since he can only rely on the prophets telling him that they are speaking for God. Then again prophets are pure and incapable of lying for their own gain right?

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Message 190 of 320 (425755)
10-03-2007 11:34 PM
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10-03-2007 11:31 PM


Let us gently explain
gen
Humans did physically write the Bible, but their words were inspired by God.
Who says they were inspired by God gen?

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Message 199 of 320 (425765)
10-03-2007 11:46 PM
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10-03-2007 11:38 PM


Re: Let us gently explain
gen
The Bible itself states that it was inspired by God
The bible was written by men stating that they were inspired by God. How do we know they were not lying for their own gain?

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Message 205 of 320 (425772)
10-04-2007 12:00 AM
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10-03-2007 11:54 PM


Re: Let us gently explain
gen
people who knew Jesus wrote saying that the scripture (written 4000 years ago) was inspired by God
Again it is people saying this and not God gen. We cannot use the bible
authors as evidence for the veracity of the selfsame words those authors wrote now can we?

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Message 229 of 320 (425830)
10-04-2007 7:18 AM
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10-04-2007 12:29 AM


Re: Let us gently explain
gen
Anyone familiar with Matthew 24?
Care to start a thread on prophecy and we can show the fallacious reasoning behind that statement?

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Message 255 of 320 (427979)
10-13-2007 11:32 PM
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10-13-2007 5:34 AM


Re: spurious is a poor choice of wording.
ILoveGod
ok first off, the 10 commandments... the first 4 are between us and God, and the next 6 are between us and each other.
Which ten commandments would those be?
First Version: Exodus 20:2-17
(I) I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery; you shall have no other gods before me.
(II) You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me, but showing steadfast love to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments.
(III) You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not acquit anyone who misuses his name.
(IV) Remember the sabbath day, and keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work. But the seventh day is a sabbath to the LORD your God; you shall not do any work-you, your son or your daughter, your male or female slave, your livestock, or the alien resident in your towns. For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but rested the seventh day; therefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day and consecrated it.
(V) Honor your father and your mother, so that your days may be long in the land that the LORD your God is giving you.
(VI) You shall not murder.
(VII) You shall not commit adultery.
(VIII) You shall not steal.
(IX) You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
(X) You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.
OR
Second Version: Exodus 34:12-26
(I) Take care not to make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land to which you are going, or it will become a snare among you. You shall tear down their altars, break their pillars, and cut down their sacred poles (for you shall worship no other god, because the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God). You shall not make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, for when they prostitute themselves to their gods and sacrifice to their gods, someone among them will invite you, and you will eat of the sacrifice. And you will take wives from among their daughters for your sons, and their daughters who prostitute themselves to their gods will make your sons also prostitute themselves to their gods.
(II) You shall not make cast idols.
(III) You shall keep the festival of unleavened bread. Seven days you shall eat unleavened bread, as I commanded you, at the time appointed in the month of Abib; for in the month of Abib you came out from Egypt.
(IV) All that first opens the womb is mine, all your male livestock, the firstborn of cow and sheep. The firstborn of a donkey you shall redeem with a lamb, or if you will not redeem it you shall break its neck. All the firstborn of your sons you shall redeem. No one shall appear before me empty-handed.
(V) Six days you shall work, but on the seventh day you shall rest; even in plowing time and in harvest time you shall rest.
(VI) You shall observe the festival of weeks, the first fruits of wheat harvest, and the festival of ingathering at the turn of the year. Three times in the year all your males shall appear before the LORD God, the God of Israel. For I will cast out nations before you, and enlarge your borders; no one shall covet your land when you go up to appear before the LORD your God three times in the year.
(VII) You shall not offer the blood of my sacrifice with leaven, and
(VIII) the sacrifice of the festival of the passover shall not be left until the morning.
(IX) The best of the first fruits of your ground you shall bring to the house of the LORD your God.
(X) You shall not boil a kid in its mother's milk.
(VI) Neither shall you commit adultery.
(VII) Neither shall you steal.
(VIII) Neither shall you bear false witness against your neighbor.
(IX) Neither shall you covet your neighbor's wife.
(X) Neither shall you desire your neighbor's house, or field, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.
Let us know which of these sets of ten commandments should be followed and which one we should tell God to stuff up his backside would you?

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Message 263 of 320 (428045)
10-14-2007 10:48 AM
Reply to: Message 259 by ILoveGod
10-14-2007 1:52 AM


Re: spurious is a poor choice of wording.
ILoveGod
The ones i was speaking of was the 10
not the on with more then 10
Well that is just the problem ILG since they both go on to declare further actions that are to be taken and followed by the people. So is it now the ones that are listed in exodus 20 and in subsequent chapters or is it the ones in exodus 34 and so on?

God does not exist until there is proof he does.

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