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Topic: The Bible was NOT man made, it was Godly made
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gen
Member (Idle past 6010 days) Posts: 78 Joined: 10-03-2007
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Message 181 of 320 (425743)
10-03-2007 11:14 PM
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Reply to: Message 179 by DrJones*
10-03-2007 11:10 PM
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What do you mean by 'yeah thats an ironclad argument' explain yourself
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DrJones*
Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: 08-19-2004 Member Rating: 7.6
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Message 182 of 320 (425744)
10-03-2007 11:16 PM
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Reply to: Message 181 by gen
10-03-2007 11:14 PM
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What do you mean by 'yeah thats an ironclad argument' explain yourself
That was what's known as sarcasm. A statment in the bible claiming that god wrote it proves nothing as to the actual authorship.
Live every week like it's Shark Week! Just a monkey in a long line of kings. If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! *not an actual doctor
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iceage 
Suspended Member (Idle past 5944 days) Posts: 1024 From: Pacific Northwest Joined: 09-08-2003
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Message 183 of 320 (425747)
10-03-2007 11:19 PM
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Reply to: Message 178 by gen
10-03-2007 11:05 PM
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gen writes: The Bible itself states that it is the word of God The Bible wasn't even an entity when such passages were written. Second something self-referential referring to itself as true is hardly of value. Other "holy books" make the same statement.
gen writes: That should settle this debate. For those lacking discernment and basic reasoning skills, perhaps. Edited by iceage, : No reason given.
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gen
Member (Idle past 6010 days) Posts: 78 Joined: 10-03-2007
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Message 184 of 320 (425748)
10-03-2007 11:21 PM
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Reply to: Message 182 by DrJones*
10-03-2007 11:16 PM
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i know what sarcasm is. do you believe it when on the front of a book it says 'By so and so'? Then why dont you believe it in the Bible?
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gen
Member (Idle past 6010 days) Posts: 78 Joined: 10-03-2007
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Message 185 of 320 (425749)
10-03-2007 11:25 PM
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Reply to: Message 183 by iceage
10-03-2007 11:19 PM
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you might also like to read my reply to 'DrJones' - do you believe it when on the front of a book it says 'By so and so'? If so, whats the difference with these statements from the Bible?
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sidelined
Member (Idle past 5938 days) Posts: 3435 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Joined: 08-30-2003
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Message 186 of 320 (425750)
10-03-2007 11:27 PM
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Reply to: Message 178 by gen
10-03-2007 11:05 PM
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gen
'Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophets own interpretation. For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.' -2 Peter 1:20-21 I am curious as to how the author of those words would know that was the case since he can only rely on the prophets telling him that they are speaking for God. Then again prophets are pure and incapable of lying for their own gain right?
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DrJones*
Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: 08-19-2004 Member Rating: 7.6
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Message 187 of 320 (425751)
10-03-2007 11:28 PM
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Reply to: Message 184 by gen
10-03-2007 11:21 PM
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i know what sarcasm is. do you believe it when on the front of a book it says 'By so and so'?
Sure, because we know humans write books, we've seen humans write books. we've never seen a "god" let alone one who's taken the time to jot down some notes for us.
Then why dont you believe it in the Bible?
The bible has so many falsehoods in it why should I beleive a claim of authorship? The Holy Qu'ran claims to have been dictacted to the Prophet Muhammad Peace be Upon Him by the angel Gabriel, do you beleive that this claim is as vaild the bible's?
Live every week like it's Shark Week! Just a monkey in a long line of kings. If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! *not an actual doctor
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gen
Member (Idle past 6010 days) Posts: 78 Joined: 10-03-2007
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Message 188 of 320 (425753)
10-03-2007 11:31 PM
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Reply to: Message 187 by DrJones*
10-03-2007 11:28 PM
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Humans did physically write the Bible, but their words were inspired by God. please point out a falsehood in the Bible for my benefit.
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gen
Member (Idle past 6010 days) Posts: 78 Joined: 10-03-2007
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Message 189 of 320 (425754)
10-03-2007 11:32 PM
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Reply to: Message 186 by sidelined
10-03-2007 11:27 PM
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Peter, the disciple of Jesus, wrote these words. He knew Jesus personally when he was here on earth. So he had more to rely on apart from just the prophets words. No, prophets are not perfect, no one is perfect except for Jesus. But their words in the Bible were inspired by God.
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sidelined
Member (Idle past 5938 days) Posts: 3435 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Joined: 08-30-2003
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Message 190 of 320 (425755)
10-03-2007 11:34 PM
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Reply to: Message 188 by gen
10-03-2007 11:31 PM
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Let us gently explain
gen
Humans did physically write the Bible, but their words were inspired by God. Who says they were inspired by God gen?
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gen
Member (Idle past 6010 days) Posts: 78 Joined: 10-03-2007
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Message 191 of 320 (425756)
10-03-2007 11:35 PM
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Another thing that proves that God wrote the Bible is the timespan it was written over and its various authors. The Bible consists of 66 books, written over a time period of thousands of years, by over 40 different authors that usually didnt know each other. Yet the whole Bible agrees! Their thoughts have got to be coming from a Divine, Eternal, Infinite Source.
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DrJones*
Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: 08-19-2004 Member Rating: 7.6
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Message 192 of 320 (425758)
10-03-2007 11:38 PM
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Reply to: Message 188 by gen
10-03-2007 11:31 PM
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Humans did physically write the Bible, but their words were inspired by God.
Just like The Holy Qu'ran.
please point out a falsehood in the Bible for my benefit.
The claim of a world wide flood.
Live every week like it's Shark Week! Just a monkey in a long line of kings. If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! *not an actual doctor
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gen
Member (Idle past 6010 days) Posts: 78 Joined: 10-03-2007
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Message 193 of 320 (425759)
10-03-2007 11:38 PM
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Reply to: Message 190 by sidelined
10-03-2007 11:34 PM
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Re: Let us gently explain
The Bible itself states that it was inspired by God. 'All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness.' -2 Timothy 3:16
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Rahvin
Member Posts: 4046 Joined: 07-01-2005 Member Rating: 8.3
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Message 194 of 320 (425760)
10-03-2007 11:41 PM
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Reply to: Message 191 by gen
10-03-2007 11:35 PM
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Another thing that proves that God wrote the Bible is the timespan it was written over and its various authors. The Bible consists of 66 books, written over a time period of thousands of years, by over 40 different authors that usually didnt know each other. Yet the whole Bible agrees! Their thoughts have got to be coming from a Divine, Eternal, Infinite Source. What a ridiculous statement. You do realize that when those 66 books were assembled, books that clearly did NOT agree were simply not included? And that the authors of the later books had certainly read the works of many of the earlier books? And that half of the New Testament consists of the letters and writings of Paul, a single man? This ignores the inconsistencies in the Bible, and the fact that multiple different Canons exist, but your entire statement is just silly, and completely ignores the whole history of the Biblical texts.
Every time a fundy breaks the laws of thermodynamics, Schroedinger probably kills his cat.
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gen
Member (Idle past 6010 days) Posts: 78 Joined: 10-03-2007
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Message 195 of 320 (425761)
10-03-2007 11:42 PM
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Reply to: Message 192 by DrJones*
10-03-2007 11:38 PM
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The flood DID happen, and that is why we have many of the landforms we have today, without the billions of years theory. This belief is called Catastrophism, as opposed to Uniformatarianism. Catastrophism says that the earthly landscape was changed gradually by erosion, but also by things like floods, earthquakes and volcanoes. This has been observed when Mount st Helens erupted and formed a canyon with extremely similar features to the Grand Canyon, but on a scale of about 1 fortieth. An unknowing geologist would have said that this canyon took billions of years to be formed.
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