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Author Topic:   Before Big Bang God or Singularity
New Cat's Eye
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Message 165 of 405 (453145)
02-01-2008 2:17 PM
Reply to: Message 161 by ICANT
02-01-2008 2:04 PM


Re: Re=T=0
OK at this point, where did it come from?
Don't you realize that asking where it came from implies a point in time before T=0? If there was no time before then, then how can the question be answered?
You still thinking of time in a linear fashion...
STOP IT!

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 171 of 405 (453161)
02-01-2008 3:32 PM
Reply to: Message 169 by ICANT
02-01-2008 3:05 PM


Re: Re=T=0
Would you care to refute my conclusions that are based upon those two learned men or are we going to dance around here for another 130 plus post with my conclusions still not refuted.
When someone refutes your conclusion and then you just repeat it again, that doesn't mean that it is not refuted.

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Message 173 of 405 (453165)
02-01-2008 3:38 PM
Reply to: Message 170 by cavediver
02-01-2008 3:22 PM


Re: ... In the beginning
I thrive off explaining this science to those with a desire to learn, because I love educating (why it was my career for so long) and I love this science (why I was a scientist in this field)
I'll go on record saying that I've learned a whole hell of a lot from you without ever receiving a condescending tone.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 328 of 405 (454782)
02-08-2008 5:46 PM
Reply to: Message 327 by ICANT
02-08-2008 5:41 PM


Re: Peanuts and The Big Bang
So space-time was present before T=O. I got no problem with that.
As you approach it from the positive side, doofus Going backwards in time....
But where did the space-time come from?
But whats north of the north pole?
No it just happens to be a point on the planet earth.
It is not a coordinate in an absence of anything.
And the singularity just happens to be a point in space-time.
It is not a coordinate in an absence of anything.
THANK GOD YOU FINALLY UNDERSTAND

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 353 of 405 (454890)
02-09-2008 2:56 AM
Reply to: Message 349 by ICANT
02-09-2008 12:07 AM


Re: Big Bang.
ICANT, this is the key to your understanding:
from Message 328, to which you did not reply:
ICANT writes:
But where did the space-time come from?
But whats north of the north pole?
ICANT writes:
No it just happens to be a point on the planet earth.
It is not a coordinate in an absence of anything.
And the singularity just happens to be a point in space-time.
It is not a coordinate in an absence of anything.
What, exactly, do you not understand about this analogy/explanation?
Be specific, not criptic.... pretty please with Jesus' blessing on top

Science fails to recognize the single most potent element of human existence.
Letting the reigns go to the unfolding is faith, faith, faith, faith.
Science has failed our world.
Science has failed our Mother Earth.
-System of a Down, "Science"
He who makes a beast out of himself, gets rid of the pain of being a man.
-Avenged Sevenfold, "Bat Country"

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 354 of 405 (454893)
02-09-2008 3:05 AM
Reply to: Message 346 by Admin
02-08-2008 9:31 PM


Re: About Keeping This Thread Open
This thread is way past 300 posts, but as long as the discussion remains productive I don't see why this thread can't stay open.
If the "software issue" is not a problem the I suggest we continue...
But is it productive? Sometimes I feel like the cosmological questions are serious, other times I feel like some here are playing at, "Let's ask the cosmologists meaningless annoying questions," and have no goal of actually understanding anything.
But if ICANT cannot allow the discussion to be productive, then you might as well just shut it down now.
I'm doubting that he is seriously trying to achieve an understanding, but is instead, as you've already seen, trying to allow for his god to fit within the gaps, so to speak type.
I leave it to the cosmologists to decide. If you think it worthwhile, I'll leave the thread open.
I'm not one of the cosmologists, by definition, but I think it should be up to ICANT. If he cannot move forward then the thread cannot. To me, it seems that he is unwilling, although not unable. He will not allow the gap to be closed on his god, no matter what. If I am correct then thread has no reason to be open any longer.

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