Before Big Bang God or Singularity

Were the blackholes in the center of the galaxies believed created after the big bang or singularity?Each galaxy are they not more of a flat spiral plane even our sun orbits in a flat plane around the center of our galaxy.The universe including all the galaxies has been said proven to be a flat plane universe? including the diluting thru the expansion that makes space expanding appears to be related to the flatness of the universe?I would of thought the expansion being faster than light would of rounded out the universe but interestinglyThe expansion of the universe is not making it appear the universe is spherical in spite of space said to be expanding in all directions. It appears the expansion is primarily lateral and not longtitudinally, etc...?P.S. Is this the believed premise that the universe is flat including all the known galaxies, etc...?Edited by johnfolton, : No reason given.Edited by johnfolton, : No reason given.Edited by johnfolton, : No reason given.Edited by johnfolton, : No reason given.

If E=mc2 Your pea appears to be the reverse of a black hole where mass has broken down and all you have is energy.Like energy trapped in time no mass until the expansion of time is this your singularity?P.S. That pea too me is just a point in time from which the expansion of energy & time was being released by him, the Word, the Alpha and the Omega, etc...

Time travel would seem impossible yet the bible talks of God knowing the end from the beginning saying that he is the alpha and the omega.I'm leaning thats a bit why you could not see the pea at T=0 is due to time. If time curves back upon itself there could not be a singularity at T=0 due to the strings of time circling back because nothing had yet been expanded into our present universe until just after T=0.Someone mentioned Hawkins? that time curves back to the the beginning thus believed to be circular? Our universe however appears to be flat so how is this possible not saying its impossible?It just seems that God since the singularity has created a new beginning or at the very least expanded time into our present universe?Since the expansion of nothing can exceed light speed then if time has burped out of the singularity does this make the universe like 6,000 years young possible? If time was released then the entire known universe could be quite young since the singularity? If the universe were actually quite old does the galaxies farther away support it spirals disipated or does the evidence support most galaxies still have spirals in spite of how close or far away the galaxies are from the earth? How does time factor into the spirals of the galaxies, etc...?Think there is a whole lot of questions not that the bible supports the universe is 6,000 years but since time seems to be related seems its expansion might make the universe quite young, if since the singularity not just matter but time was playing a part in the expansion of the universe, etc...P.S. Its almost like the entire universe was designed before T=0 like plant seeds and you get trees(galaxies) etc...?
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It does not appear to me either that the expansion of the universe is related to the acceleration of mass. I look at it more the creation of space so the energy could become mass, etc.... even today the expansion of the universe is said to be related to the space between galaxies spreading apart faster than the speedlimit of light yet no mass is said to be moving faster than light because that would of violated them theories of relativity.Edited by johnfolton, : No reason given.

So do you believe mass moved faster than light in the big bang or that energy before it became mass could go faster than light. Not sure we disagree ?

If the space between galaxies is increasing faster than the speed of light then nothing can increase faster than the speed limit of light in a vacuum. Do you believe time is responsible for the increase of the entire universe spatial dimensions.It just appears too me it was not a big bang because the universe is expanding it appears thru time not from an explosion of matter but more an explosion of space expanding thru time?P.S. So do you believe all points before the singularity simply has been stretched. Is this what makes our universe able to have mass? E=mc2Edited by johnfolton, : No reason given.Edited by johnfolton, : No reason given.Edited by johnfolton, : No reason given.Edited by johnfolton, : No reason given.Edited by johnfolton, : No reason given.

The bible agrees actually that the universe is expanding and that God alone is responsible. It kinda makes me wonder the point about where the laws of physics breaks down if all the elements were created at this point in time? It does not appear there ever was a big bang simply that time has expanded, etc....How else do you explain the expansion of the universe faster than lights speed but thru the expansion of spacetime?