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Dave101
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Message 51 of 479 (469959)
06-08-2008 6:31 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by DrJones*
06-08-2008 6:11 PM


Re: A Light at the End Of The Tunnel :-)
Human Genome Project Information Site Has Been Updated
this is a start, I will have to dig for the rest. I have much on my plate so be patient...

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Dave101
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Message 53 of 479 (469961)
06-08-2008 6:33 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by bluegenes
06-08-2008 6:18 PM


Re: Another boy with imaginary friends.
hahaha... blue what is your name?????

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Dave101
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Message 55 of 479 (469963)
06-08-2008 6:39 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by iano
06-08-2008 6:31 PM


Re: A Light at the End Of The Tunnel :-)
Thanks for the response. On the issue of science and scripture though... one does support the other. The problem, friend is that there are groups out there that think what they do is science when in reality it is just another false religion. This is why Paul warned Timothy (I believe about evolution to come and other thins)... 1st Timothy 6:20,21... :-) Let them look it up
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Dave101
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Message 58 of 479 (469968)
06-08-2008 6:44 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by Brian
06-08-2008 6:27 PM


Re: A Light at the End Of The Tunnel :-)
Go to bed Brian... :-) Thanks for the chat... BTW to me stupid = rock + time = man... (not for you, for bluewhatzisname...;-) Youy must hav a lot of faith Brian, to go to sleep, being at the closest a human can get to death, not knowing if you will wake in the morning.... WHEW... to sleep not accepting Jesus Christ takes more faith than I have... WOW!

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Dave101
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Message 65 of 479 (469982)
06-08-2008 8:05 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by Granny Magda
06-08-2008 7:10 PM


Re: A Light at the End Of The Tunnel :-)
You know Granny.. The administrator is right... I have forgotten the reason for this particular thread. When I get the list of 5500 together I will mail them to you. I will also mail to anyone who asks, you just need to let me know by email and I will attach to you. In the meantime... to answer in the simplest terms the thread question here... Why did God Forgive our Sins...
1.Because He is God and He said so
2. Because if you read the first section of John Chapter 1 say verses 1-18 and also Colossians chapter 1 say verses 12 through 22 you will know that the Creator of heaven and earth and all things is the part of God that expresses Himself as the Son. It was His pleasure to do so. Why? Because we are His creation and He has the right to do this. In fact if you would read the O.T. Book of Ruth you would learn about kinsman redeemer types and figure out the how and whys of the thing.
There were three requirements God had to meet in order to provide for our Salvation form ourselves.
1. He had to be related by blood... hence Jesus the Christ. God had to become a blood relative of ours in order to redeem us.
2. He had to legally be able to do so. IE: In doing the redemption he could not jeopardize his inheritance (see Boaz and the closer kinsman for Ruth ((Ruth chapter 4 verses 1-12)).
3. He had to want to. Having met the first two conditions was not enough. He had to WANT to.... Can you imagine friends... God so loved the world that He gave His only son to it so that all who simply believe in Him will have everlasting life in God's house. No strings attached.
This gift of the father is not one that can be reversed. Romans 11:29 says that the gifts and calling of God are without repentance meaning that He cannot take back what is offered by Him for any reason. All you have to do Brian is reach for Him... He is not the monster that you say that He is. If you were saved once then you still are.... So you fit inside that theory you have of me :-)
Does this make sense to me... NO ... Why would God do this for ME? Makes no sense and I have to tell you that He knows more about the depths of my nature than even I want to admit... Yet He loves me freely. Can I explain that? NO, But I praise and worship Him for it not understanding all that He does or why. Jesus Christ bought you with His blood and you only need say yes to the invitation. Come on! Be delusional with the rest of us nuts! :-) The original Greek of John 1:1 is very cool. It doesn't exactly say "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, And the Word was God"... it says (exactly) "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, And GOD WAS THE WORD" A small play on words but soo COOL!
An after thought that might make an interesting thread... If sin did not enter the world and IF Adam (Both of their names were Adam by the way, Adam renamed woman Eve later at the fall.. (see Gen. 5:2) had eaten from the tree of life and lived forever... here's the question... How would we be able to die and release our spirit so that it could be present with God in Heaven? 2nd Corinthians 5:5-8? So... What if God was willing to show us longsuffering and allow the birth of unsaved people and let them have time on earth in order to interact with those who end up being saved in order to help the ones to be saved along the path to become saved? What if He lets them help those of us who have seen the light of the Lamb reach the end of ourselves so that we get to a place where we cry out to Him for our redemption, our hope, our sanctification, our sanity itself which we so desperately need in a world controlled by forces of darkness that most of you do not either know or ignore and pretend all is ok in your lives when in fact we all know there is a void n humans that can only be filled by the Lord Christ Jesus.
I have tried drugs, sex, drinking (just another name for drugs), self worship, science, material things of this planet all to no avail. Only Jesus Christ can give you what you are missing friend. To say you are missing nothing is the grandest delusion that there is for you are fearfully and wonderfully created by God to have a relationship with Him. My Irish friend is right... He has had an experience in his life called a second birth and you cannot turn from that birth. You can be mad at your father, you can resist Him but in the end, If you were ever born again then you still are. You cannot be unborn, you cannot crawl back into your mothers womb and be turned into a separation of seed and egg and once a son of God you can never become less than that son. Colossians 3 says "You are dead and your life is HIDDEN IN Christ" ... God no longer looks through the blood of the Lamb to see your faults... Once you receive Jesus Christ you are complete in Him and no created thing (ROMANS 8:38,39) (including yourself) can separate you from Him.
Christianity is about you understanding who Jesus is and What He accomplished for YOU, Not what you think you can do for Him. We all think we can please Him by doing good... We can't our righteousness is as filthy rags to Him... (Isaiah 64:6) The only thing that makes us right and complete with God is accepting the sacrifice that He made of His Son on Calvary's Cross.
It seems such a simple thing, that Cross...
Yet it is the hardest thing a man can do is admit that there is more out there than Himself and that you need to yield to another to take your place and punishment ... yet Emmanuel did Just that very thing.... (Emmanuel, a title for the Christ meaning "God With Us") What I found in my own life friend is that in losing all that I had and all that I became, I was set free and am now in love with my creator and am His adopted son... And that is all He wants from you too Brian... everyone... It is true that He also is a God of Wrath... You might say it's YAHWEH or the Hiway! :-)
Religion is always man's attempt to reach God on man's terms, not believing there is only one way....
Jesus Christ is God's attempt to reach man on His terms and His way is Perfect. He says there is only one way... He wrote you a book to tell you about it and He says that there is only ONE book....and it is complete.....
Why did God forgive our sins... Because He wanted to...

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Dave101
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Message 66 of 479 (469989)
06-08-2008 8:21 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by Brian
06-08-2008 6:27 PM


Re: A Light at the End Of The Tunnel :-)
The cool thing is Brian, I no longer am fueled by guilt. . . and tell me friend, where would "Guilt" come from in the first place? I mean, if we are just evolved from some primordial goo... why would we have any morality or guilt at all? Have you ever wondered.... Why all the killings at schools now and why are our children acting out worse with every passing generation?
Where was God when those kids were killed in all the schools?...
I'm sorry but we do not allow God in our schools anymore... We replaced Him with a monster called Evolution... Every passing generation gets more of this teaching and as time goes by they realize that if they evolved and there is no creator then why act decent... should I dare say... Why act human at all... why no de-evolve into something anamalistic and be interested only in "ME"... Screw everyone else...
Just wondering...

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Dave101
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Message 67 of 479 (469995)
06-08-2008 8:37 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by Legend
06-08-2008 7:20 PM


Re: atonement, what atonement?
Legend...
In the fairness of the law...etc...
When is the last time you sacrificed a goat or fatted calf at the altar? After all, this is what is required under the Mosaic system of law to atone for yourself for the upcoming year. When is the last time you took a trip to Jerusalem for the passover, feast of Booths etc? How do you explain Isaiah 9:6 ad hundreds of other passages referring to the coming Christ. (136 direct prophecy's relating to Jesus that He could not have faked)? It is not "Pauline" Theology friend... Have you read 2nd Peter chapter 3? Peter tells you that Paul's teachings ARE SCRIPTURE and if you do not understand them then you also twist the rest of scripture to your own destruction (2 Peter 3:15 and 16) In Acts 15 Peter and the rest of the 12 debate and Peter admits that the Jews now have a hope of salvation in the manner that the Gentiles are now being saved. Acts Chapter 10 with Peter talking to Cornelius Peter mentions salvation is by "Believe in Jesus Christ" completely separate from the law. (Acts 10:42 and 43 ((all the way to 45 and on really)))
Following God's laws are great if you keep them perfectly but I am willing to bet you broke many of them (613 laws, not 10). The OT is full of references that the law is/was a temporary measure until the Christ should come...
forgive my intrusion here amigo,
I had to say this all... maybe not even for your benefit but God says His Word will NOT return to Him void so I hope someone sees this who needs to know...
Dave101

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Dave101
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Message 68 of 479 (470000)
06-08-2008 9:02 PM
Reply to: Message 63 by Straggler
06-08-2008 7:28 PM


Re: What is God's purpose?
Why did God destroy so many people groups in O.T. Times? Because they worshiped false gods and idols. So why would He do differently at judgment day for those who actually have had the truth told to them yet reject Him anyway??? Acts Chapter 17 verses 30 and 31 are very interesting on this subject. The OT non Jews had an excuse... we don't.
Edited by Dave101, : mis spelled word

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