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LucyTheApe
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Message 89 of 402 (473997)
07-04-2008 10:16 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by Dr Adequate
07-03-2008 4:17 AM


That's one great advantage evolutionists have over creationists, (which goes along with being right) it is in principle possible for us to educate a creationist, though I confess that the occurence is rather rare. But it is not possible for you to make us as ignorant as yourselves without actual surgery.
That's probably one of the most ignorant statements I've ever heard!
Why bother arguing if you're so bigoted and certain that YOU know the truth? It's pointless.
Tell me, what are the rules and bounds of the TOE?

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LucyTheApe
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Message 203 of 402 (474256)
07-07-2008 10:31 AM
Reply to: Message 148 by Organicmachination
07-05-2008 2:24 PM


Re: Johnboy the Ape
Organicmachination writes:
Did you watch that video on ERVs that bluegenes posted? If so, you have been introduced to one of the strongest cases for evolution ever presented.
This video is premised on a random chemical process. Which, of course is a false premise. Did you not learn at school that the concept of randomness exists only in the human mind, not in nature. If this is the strongest case for evolution, then the theory really is on shaky grounds.

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LucyTheApe
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Message 204 of 402 (474259)
07-07-2008 11:14 AM
Reply to: Message 193 by Blue Jay
07-06-2008 9:33 PM


Re: Observations
Coyote writes:
In science there generally is only one theory at a time within a given field. Currently the theory that explains speciation is the theory of evolution.
Speciation is evolution is speciation; circular reasoning! If speciation is not evolution then you have two theories in the one sentence.
Bluejay writes:
What "start-to-finish" model, John? Rrhain's E. coli just proved evolution: we don't need anything else to prove that ToE works in the real world.
What we see with the Ecoli is inbuilt adaption not evolution. If organisms were unable to adapt there would be no life left on earth.
Edited by LucyTheApe, : No reason given.

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LucyTheApe
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Message 228 of 402 (474305)
07-07-2008 1:47 PM
Reply to: Message 205 by NosyNed
07-07-2008 11:29 AM


Re: Observations
LTA writes:
This video is premised on a random chemical process. Which, of course is a false premise.
NosyNed writes:
I don't understand the point you are making here. I don't see how it applies to the topic at hand. Perhaps you can elaborate a lot more.
The video makes the claim that the viral DNA can attach itself "randomly" anywhere on the host DNA. And then perpetuates this throughout. Surely the DNA can only attach where the chemistry is right for it to do so. Given that the chimps DNA is identical to humans at the specified positions, it's no surprise that the bonds appear at the same spot on the DNA.
Therefore it doesn't mean that humans and chimps have the same ancestor at all, it means that humans and chimps were around at the same time this strain of virus was.
Australopithicus afarensis writes:
What we see with the Ecoli is inbuilt adaption not evolution.
NosyNed writes:
"Inbuilt" in exactly what way? How is this not evolution?
Just because the Creator made all kinds with their seed doesn't mean that He can't provide them with the ability to fight infection.
Edited by LucyTheApe, : typo
Edited by LucyTheApe, : No reason given.

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