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Author Topic:   Discovery or Ignorance: The Choice Is yours?
Tanypteryx
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Message 60 of 402 (473918)
07-03-2008 4:10 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by Granny Magda
07-03-2008 3:46 PM


Re: What We Mean by Theory
Granny Magda writes:
Secondly, if you want to examine the evidence for evolution from start to finish I suggest that you sign up at a university for an evolutionary biology course.
Granny he does not want to learn anything about science or evolutionary biology. He only wants to tell us what science and evolution are. It is clear he does not know even the most basic concepts of either subject. Middle school students have a better understanding than he does.
He claims to have been an engineer at many nuclear powerplants. A scary thought! We should run!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
You can't build a Time Machine without Weird Optics -- S. Valley

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Tanypteryx
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Message 177 of 402 (474160)
07-05-2008 10:13 PM


John You Have Convinced Me
Your argument wins the day for me. You have demolished your opponents without once resorting to evidence or references to back up your claims. I am in awe of the skill with which you swept aside all their references and the accumulated evidence of tens of thousands of scientists over the past 150 years.
I have become a believer in "true science" and together we will change the world forever.
The best part is I will not have to do any more research, no more weeks in the field studying insects, no more trying to puzzle out their life histories, or trying to figure out their taxonomy. If I have a question all I have to do is ask you. You know everything. I am your unworthy but adoring fan.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
You can't build a Time Machine without Weird Optics -- S. Valley

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Tanypteryx
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Message 180 of 402 (474169)
07-06-2008 1:06 AM
Reply to: Message 178 by John 10:10
07-05-2008 10:46 PM


Re: John You Have Convinced Me
John 10:10 writes:
What part of "discovering/proving how things are or came to be as they are" do you not understand?
All of it. I seem to have a devil of a time proving things with 100% certainty, especially the part where I convince other entomologists that I have absolutely proved I'm right.
The group of insects I have spent my life studying is dragonflies. There are many different species and each has remarkably complex mating behavior and morphology. For many years I have tried to figure out why there are so many differences between the species and how they came to be so complex.
Now finally, with the tools of true science that you have explained to us, I will be able to prove something. Once something is proved with true science no one needs to study it further because all the answers have been proved. Soon all the answers about everything will be proved by true science and no one will have any need for further study. Just think of it....no more questions about anything! I feel so ashamed that I mistakenly thought science was fun, you know the thrill of discovery, or the mystery that you can't quite figure out but that teaches you so much in the pursuit of an answer.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
You can't build a Time Machine without Weird Optics -- S. Valley

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Tanypteryx
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Message 182 of 402 (474179)
07-06-2008 11:20 AM
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07-06-2008 5:11 AM


Re: John You Have Convinced Me
cavediver writes:
I hope you appreciate that for anyone reading this forum with John's outlook, he has indeed won, and has demolished every argument raised against him by EvC's scientific collective. This is what is truly scary...
It is sad also. He sucks the fun right out of this. He has not even tried to debate, just repeated himself over and over. The picture I have of him in my mind is a kid with his fingers in his ears, yelling I'm right, I'm right, I'm right.
John and others with his outlook will never educate themselves about science or evolution because they are afraid just learning about the subjects would irreversibly contaminate them. It is a sin for them to even consider it. They are afraid that if it is true that they are biologically connected to all the life on the planet through common decent that they will lose their sense of self-worth. It would make them lose their sense of specialness.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
You can't build a Time Machine without Weird Optics -- S. Valley

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