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Author Topic:   Not reading God's Word right is just wrong. No talking snakes!
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Message 1 of 157 (486503)
10-21-2008 3:17 PM


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Message 3 of 157 (486540)
10-22-2008 8:43 AM
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Full title of thread: Not reading God’s Word right, is just wrong. No talking snakes! Thanks. Would not be pleasing to God.
At the time of the writings of scripture, those who directed scribes were also poets and song writers.
The idea of using a talking snake is a message to readers that what follows must be taken with a grain of salt because it is based on an impossible beginning.
That is also why they emphasize WORD, that the reader is to look for the true meaning of the words given.
It should be read an archetypal rendition of a best guess for man”s beginnings, in terms of morals sense. A term that requires knowledge of good and evil. A sense we all cherish in ourselves and would not give up.
In conclusion, to read scripture literally without knowing the true context and idioms of the original words and language forces one to truly believe in the impossible and unnatural. The Bible begins with a talking serpent and ends with ten headed monster. A clear indication from the compilers of scripture to not take the Bible literally.
Debate--Should the Bibles be read literally.
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DL
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Message 6 of 157 (486559)
10-22-2008 1:09 PM
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Thanks.
Regards
DL

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Message 7 of 157 (486560)
10-22-2008 1:11 PM
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Agobot
Wellll, Yes.
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DL

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Message 10 of 157 (486623)
10-23-2008 8:40 AM
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10-22-2008 11:14 PM


Logic
I would be happy to deal with a talking snake. i just can't find one. Perhaps you will lend me yours.
If you have dealt with it, you might give your conclusion.
Bible are works of philosophy. How else should you read them. Novels?
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DL

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Message 11 of 157 (486625)
10-23-2008 8:44 AM
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10-23-2008 4:33 AM


Agobot
The God you follow is in science?
He hides in nature?
Regarda
DL

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Message 13 of 157 (486634)
10-23-2008 9:26 AM
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10-23-2008 9:22 AM


Agobot
Godliness is a moral position. God is a philosophy.
Science is not good at philosophy.
How will science help find God? It deals with the physical, not the non corporeal.
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DL

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Message 15 of 157 (486644)
10-23-2008 10:50 AM
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Your focus is on the physical. I speak to the philosophy that will arise. The non physical. Scripture would call it the WORD.
It will not depend on the existence of talking snakes.
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DL

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Message 18 of 157 (486715)
10-23-2008 9:57 PM
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10-23-2008 7:05 PM


Logic
You forget that philosophy, like religions offer a way of life along with the consumer goods.
I have found God and He looks nothing like the loser of most scriptural interpretations. I have no idea where you would get such a notion.
The first God was a man. The last God will be as well. It may well be your scientist but I vote for a generalist.
Let’s hope it happens soon.
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DL

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Message 19 of 157 (486716)
10-23-2008 10:10 PM
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10-23-2008 8:38 PM


ReverendDG
The introduction of any fantasy item to a narrative, changes it from whatever it was meant to be, to a fantasy.
The most serious speaker will lose respect if he, on occasion, confers with a talking pet.
If they wanted serious respect then they would have left the snake crawl quietly.
Unfortunately, many read the Bible as the WORD of God. They are misguided.
The Bible is whatever Constantine wanted to pay for. He paid the bills. It is his.
Regards
DL

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Message 21 of 157 (486946)
10-25-2008 11:27 PM
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10-25-2008 1:58 PM


Bailey
What is debatable?
Talking snakes?
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DL

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Message 23 of 157 (486995)
10-26-2008 6:15 PM
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10-26-2008 3:44 PM


Don't know.
if man has always been the same then it stands to reason that it is God's standards that have changed, not mans.
We are the way we should be, if not then some pray to an incompetent God.
One who cannot create perfect souls and natures.
Regards
DL

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Message 25 of 157 (487105)
10-27-2008 5:26 PM
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10-27-2008 4:06 PM


Bailey
I agree with your last statement but where have you "observe man's changes evidentially". I see no change over the last 2-3000 yrs.
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DL

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Message 29 of 157 (488760)
11-16-2008 8:53 PM
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10-27-2008 6:33 PM


jaywill
I guess that you do not see a danger in turning the Bible into a fairy tale. That is where many are classing it now. you exacerbate the problem.
Put away your toys of children.
Regards
DL

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Message 30 of 157 (488761)
11-16-2008 8:56 PM
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11-16-2008 7:32 PM


ReverendDG
Christianity may have to if they want to survive.
The world id getting smarter.
Regards
DL

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