On this day, let us all be proud of America

RAZD writes:Because of Gitmo

Taz writes:You've been arrested by a foreign power and shipped to a detention facility on an thousands of miles away from your homeland. You are tortured from time to time for information that you may or may not know.

rpb writes:What does Al-Shihri, the man in question say about this? From the article

bluescat writes:Then why have they not been charged, tried, convicted & executed?

subbie writes:Quite amusing to watch all the fair weather christians abandon the teachings of Christ when it's not expedient to follow them. Didn't he say something about turning the other cheek?

monkey boy writes:I presume that the two adjacent messages of yours are connected, Buzsaw. I will therefore consider myself to be responding to both. According to Amnesty International 60-90% of the gitmo population was inncent of any crime. They were merely in the wrong place, at the wrong time. The very existence of the prison is an affront to law and common decency. As to your fear-mongering, that is typical of someone who wants blind emotion, not reason, to prevail.

After making this startling discovery, Keraly proceeded to investigate Amnesty International headquarters in London where he discovered that Amnesty director Derek Roebuck was an active Communist.
In his study of thousands of files, he discovered such things as terrorists, working with Ugandan dictator Idi Amin listed as “victims of political oppression.”
At the same time, Amnesty had done nothing to investigate the torture and concentration camps of the Soviet Union, Cambodia, or Cuba.
In fact, the “human rights” group had little to say at the time regarding leftist abuses occurring in the late 1970’s.
This was a time when the world leftist behemoth was quite active in its policy of liquidation and support for international terrorism.Amnesty International hasn’t changed it stripes much in the ensuing decades with their support of such things as the Bolshevik inspired “U.N. Declaration of Human Rights,” with its call for a transfer of capital from the productive western societies to third world dictators and its guarantee of the right to employment, a typical Stalinist idea.
Now they are championing the cause of Muslims who have experienced “discrimination” in the US since Sept. 11 and the al Quada prisoners at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
Their website “In the Wake of September 11, 2001, Justice and Human Rights” is heavy with concern regarding “Upholding international human rights and humanitarian law as the US responds to the attacks” while it says nothing about the leftist Palestinian Authority and its terrorist offshoots.
As is par for the course, America is under the microscope while the politically oppressive but generally leftist Islamic world is ignored.

Taz writes:Ok, let's assume for a moment that the military knows best. What is so horrible about showing the courts at least some of the evidence proving their guilt?

Straggler writes:The fact that in the vast majority of cases there is no evidence to suggest anything else.

Straggler writes:Well what are the facts?

Page not found | Center for Constitutional Rights. writes:October 7, 2008, New York - Today, for the first time, a federal court ordered the release into the United States of 17 innocent Uighur men who have been imprisoned at Guantánamo Bay for nearly seven years.

Innocent until proven guilty? Does this mean nothing to you? Is no part of moral law sacrecanct in this "war on terror"

I have very little faith in what army intelligence knows. I have little faith in what the army intelligence thinks it knows. Throw in my scepticism towards army intelligence being confused with political desire and we have a recipe for which I have the deepest mistrust.

Do you trust your government Buz? Where does your government end and your military start?

Straggler writes:Answer me honestly Buz. Do you think the military are overly concerned with justice? Do you think that they care if 95% of Gitmo detainees are innocent?

Dr Jones writes:indeed as Ben Fraklin said:

DrJones writes:When did that happen Buz? I don't recall seeing the US Troops pull out of Iraq or Afghanistan, unless of course you're just making shit up.

President Obama yesterday eliminated the most controversial tools employed by his predecessor against terrorism suspects. With the stroke of his pen, he effectively declared an end to the "war on terror," as President George W. Bush had defined it, signaling to the world that the reach of the U.S. government in battling its enemies will not be limitless.This Story
ANALYSIS: Bush's 'War' On Terror Comes to a Sudden End
Obama Reverses Bush Policies On Detention and Interrogation
Obama Plans to Close Guantanamo Prison
While Obama says he has no plans to diminish counter terrorism operations abroad, the notion that a president can circumvent long-standing U.S. laws simply by declaring war was halted by executive order in the Oval Office.Key components of the secret structure developed under Bush are being swept away: The military's Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, facility, where the rights of habeas corpus and due process had been denied detainees, will close, and the CIA is now prohibited from maintaining its own overseas prisons. And in a broad swipe at the Bush administration's lawyers, Obama nullified every legal order and opinion on interrogations issued by any lawyer in the executive branch after Sept. 11, 2001.

DrJones writes:why do you hate America so much?

RAZD writes:Curiously all he has done is end the illegal procedures, he has not ordered the CIA to "stand down" or any other misrepresentation of his policy.